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Friday, July 20, 2012 | 9:27am
OH AND BTW: Obama and Romney are TIED in the polls
Should we just call this one early for Romney? Y’all don’t want to be bothered with having to go to the polls do you?
Your Next President
There are certain things we can always count on. There will always be a rainbow after the storm, likewise there is actually no gold at the end of said rainbow. We know that we all will at some point die and of course, Malcolm is always right about politics.
Now, some time ago, still very early on in the political season, our resident Political handicapper Malcolm declared the race over and in fact in favor of Mitt Romney. According to recent polls, his predictions might seem rather genius.
A new CBS News/New York Times poll, has Romney at 47 percent and Obama has 46 percent among registered voters, a difference that’s within the poll’s three-point margin of error. Despite several weeks of an onslaught of attacks on Romney’s refusal to release his tax return and his record at the private equity firm, Bain Capital, it would seem all for naught as the race for the White House is now too close to call.
60 percent of voters say Romney’s experience at Bain will not influence their decision. 73 percent, say Romney’s personal wealth will not be a factor. However, about one in five voters say these issues will make them less likely to support Romney. Romney gets the edge over Obama on handling the economy, 49 percent to 41 percent, but Obama is seen as doing more to help the middle class, by a margin of 52 percent to 38 percent.
The Republican is gaining momentum. I just thought you all should know. We now send you back to your regularly scheduled mindless reality show.
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Yeah, and that idiot Newt Gingrich had a big lead also early. I think twice. And if it comes down to Florida we all know to expect some funky results. I will wonder what the GOP will come up with next to suppress the vote?
But if minorities (Black,White,Hispanic,Latino,Gay, And Women) vote for their own self interest then Obama should win easily. But Yes I will be voting from now until the end of time.
People are silly if they say we don’t care about Mitt hiding money and lying to the government about him being at Bain. LOL People can say healthcare all they want. But the health care that got passed was and pretty much what Romney passed in Mass. . But i can say one thing is right. Romney will change his tune to the highest bidder or whom ever will get him the most votes.
I think it could be objectively argued that if minorities (at least black, white, Hispanic and latino) were ACTUALLY voting purely in their own self-interest, they should vote for Mitt Romney.
Now Malcolm, you know the Democratic party has spent decades trying to convince us all otherwise and it has worked quite well. Don’t expect people to start really vetting their candidates now and try to make an informed decision rather than voting the way they are told to.
But I must admit, from a strictly political standpoint, it’s amazing how the democrats have convinced people to ignore 100 years of their party’s history.
Jimmyt and Malcolm please please tell me Y in the hell I would want 2 be included in a party that literally hates minorities, and trust me some of their stances I do agree with Right 2 bare arms,smaller Gov, Death Penalty,lower taxes all of em say that 1 it’s bullshit No party will lower taxes or not tax,not gonna happen.Look at the KKKonventions, the Pee Party,the G.O.P(Granddragons Oppressing People.)R u not lookn at the crowds at these gatherings 1 toKKKen black and he or she is most likely shining shoes,a custodial engineer or a security guard.I know there a few minorities they let in but look at em, on some “yessa boss type shit” All they are missing are the sheets and burning crosses.
Please do not give no smart ass remark, I am serious let me know Y the RepubliKKKlan is all of a sudden inclusive of minorities and I should switch Parties, hell if the Black Panthers had a party I would get down with them, but 4 real let me know. The basis does not make logical sense join a party that’s hates you are even on the same planet much less the same KKKunt…try?
I’m still a Democrat, no matter what. PEACE!!!
Who else is running, besides Pres. Obama and Gov. Romney?
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What’s their platform?
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I’ll probably vote for them, just so that I can say that I voted for the other, other guy when this country shits the bed.
I want to hear this argument… Because from all of the rhetoric and history of being against social issues that affect us i would love to hear it. Saying MLK was a Republican before the Civil rights movement doesn’t qualify since he could be seen as almost the single reason most Black folks are Democrat now. This happened during and after the civil rights movement. Yes, before this the Democratic party looked like the Republican party of late. But after when the Democratic party decided to vote for Civil rights and the Republicans Started using their “Southern Strategy” You get what you see now. So Again I ask you why would i vote Republican when most of the Dixie-crates and segregationist left the Democratic party because of issues of Civil right among many others. So funny when re-reading some of the straegies used back then are still used today to supress votes.
Kevin Phillips a Republican strategist during Nixon time said it best “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that… but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.”
I will get to why people should vote republican in a little while.
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But based on your stance concerning the democrats, I take it that the cut-off point for bringing up history is now 40 years?
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If this is the case, I take it we wil no longer be going back 400 years in the history of black people in America?
Why no, This is our history. But when has the Republican party done an about face. Because up until about 40 years ago i put them both in the same category. But the Democratic party at least at least did the right thing when it came to voting for civil rights, voting act and things alike. The GOP cheeps with the same OLE games. I mean you have Newt telling Us Black Folks he is going to show us how to get a job rather than food stamps. Rick Perry Hunting at N***er head, Or Rick Santorum telling Black folks again that he wants to helps go out and earn money and take other peoples money. This might all be coincidence but it smells to much like the old days to me.
If you’re talking about the big one, the Civil Rights act of 1964, I don’ think the numbers agree with you.
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In the house, 80% of the republicans voted yes. 61% of the democrats voted yes.
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In the senate, 82% of the republicans voted yes, 69% of the democrats voted yes
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Source:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
And if you’re talking about the voting rights act of 1965…
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Senate… 94% of republicans voted yes. 73% of democrats voted yes.
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House… 82% of republicans voted yes. 78% of democrats voted yes.
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Once again… the democrats convince people that they are the good guys, but the actual vote tells a different story
Those are good stats. And I can’t argue with that one or two votes. But That still doesn’t clear up the The Southeren Strategy.
I co sign with u NTS5 and of course we will continue 2 revert back 2 African Americans looooong and rich history of being kidnapped from jump Malcolm. Look let’s not kid ourselves yes republicans used 2 give an ounce of sympathy 2 blacks when we were chained I give u that but don’t get it twisted like Keith Sweat, Malcolm that the NEW RepubliKKKlan party gives a damn about minorities in any fashion. Look at some of their toKKKens Jigg Daddy Cain, Condy Rice A Phony,I know there are a few more but what do u think they are sayn about THE TOKENS when they are not around….look at these KKKoons they want 2 be in our party so bad they would bad-mouth 1 another just do be near us….”what a silly Negro” “Eddie Murphy Saturday Night Live skit”. I look them up on line and it the same thing “the yessa boss mentality”. Obama 2012!!
I would have called him Toe Tappin Cain. LOL And No real Richard Steal…. Even though i would have voted for Collin Powell if he had ran.
2NA$$TEE, my good man I would not try to change your mind at all.
I’m still waiting for a reason of why i should vote GOP.
None that I can think of but I can’t think of any reason to vote for either of the two “major” parties.
Somethng that I have said all along Demon-crats and the RepubliKKKlan are both full of shit. I am not 1 way or the other all the time no logical thinking human being is. As 4 the Voters Rights Act look at the keyword in that …..ACT as in not a bill or law at the time neither Party wanted minorities 2 vote and those same triaditions still ring true 2 this day.
The short answer to why vote republican is this…
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The president and the democrats have become so anti-business that the money people have gone on strike against them.
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The dems and the President seem to think that jobs and money are a natural resource… something that will always be there; something that exists of itself and independent of the money and work necessary to create them.
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As such, they mistakenly believe that the American businessman is willing to put up with an unlimited amount of looting; that their need for self-preservation will force them to work and work at their business until they die on the job.
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But that isn’t the case right now. Statements from the dems and the President has made it so clear where they stand on the issue, that the people with the money (who create the jobs in the first place), have decided that it’s better for them just to walk off the field, to keep their money in the bank instead of investing it in the future.
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Now, you may argue whether this is right or wrong, whether it is anti-American or not. But you cannot argue this… jobs are created by the people who have the money needed to build the factories. Yes… the worker is necessary to build the products that generate the profits… but in this equation the money comes first, the jobs and workers come second. As important as the worker is in the business equation, there would be NO jobs without first having the person who has the money willing to risk on starting the business.
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There are only so many times you can bite the hand that feeds you before the victim decides to remove themselves from the equation.
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Vote republican because it will open the money tap. This will create jobs. And jobs are necessary for the success of everyone in this country, especially minorities (who are suffering disproportionally in the unemployment figures)
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Or… vote democrat, continue to loot the producers of this world, and watch it all come crashing down on your head when the rich decide to deprive you of your victims.
Question? While all you say is quite logical, where are these job creators when thousands of people get laid-off from one company, say Bank of America. The Bush tax cuts didn’t expire, yet companies like Bank of America have been laying off people for years now. So, these so called wealthy job creators, have Billions of dollars stock piled, they are making hand over fist on the worst stock market day off the backs of their customers and public at large, they are recieving tax cuts up the ying yang, while laying their lower employees off, and granting huge bonuses to the higher rungs. Is this why I should vote Republican? So that I can make someone else rich in hopes that in some way shape or form they find it neccessary to grant me some of the wealth only to take in away later. That sound like temporary selective welfare.
I’m talking about the system as a whole, the ebb and flow of capitalism.
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Part of the reason capitalism works is because success is not guaranteed. So, if 1000 people start their own business, you might only have 100-200 that succeed. But the money invested even in the failing business find its way into the economy.
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It’s the fact that economic freedom allows and entices people to invest in the first place that’s important.
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This is one of the reasons why, for example, communism doesn’t work. In the case of the old USSR, for example, the decisions as to what business to open was made collectively. So, instead of having a broad base of businesses (some which succeeded, most that failed), you had a single collective choice… and if/when that failed there were no other options to pick up the slack.
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I understand the arguments and reasoning concerning income inequity. But there is the other side of the coin on this too… first: no one FORCES you to shop at BofA or any of these other companies. People have the right to make a conscience decision not to shop at the companies that pay their execs too much.
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And second… it is the shareholders of the company who own the business, and therefore their choice as to whether to agree to pay these insane amounts. A business is in business to make money, not necessarily to promote a humanitarian political belief.
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Note… I am NOT saying that it’s OK for these companies to profit off of breaking the rules and ripping off people for billions. On the contrary, I believe in strong regulations that prevent illegal actions and create a fair open playing field.
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But, as I said… there are two parts to the equation. No one holds a gun to your head and forces you to do business with BofA, anymore than people being forced to borrow money (at robber rates) from the local check-loan or we-buy-gold establishments.
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But there is a cart-and-horse relationship. Unless you can figure out a way to come up with (for example) the $2 million in cash necessary to buy a McDonalds, you will not be able to create these jobs. So, again… it is the MONEY that is the prime mover here.
I understand. I see you as being an idealist of sorts. I feel that you are a Republican by some text book, written-in-stone definition. So my question is, do you think that the Republican Party and Mitt Romnmey, properly portrays what you believe it is to be an Republican? I feel that the reported track record of Mitt Romney does not coincide with what you believe it is to be a Republican.
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I see the practices of most companies gear towards a sense of guaranteed capitalism. i.e. If a company; I use banks a lot in example they are very multi-faceted and dynamic businesses, is 40 million in the red, they go and raise ATM fees, charge double for check cashing, tack on extra fees for overdraft, do a little corporate restructuring to pay new employees less, and then to top it off they lay off 1500 employees who earn $35,000 to $45,000 year. But, executives get bonuses, some new stadium bears their name, and some million dollar a year celebrity stars in the their new commercials. While, I don’t need to use that particular bank it seems that damned near EVERY bank shares the same practices.
I don’t believe the current republican party believes what I believe, but electing Mitt Romney could go a long way toward changing that.
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Don’t believe half of what you’re hearing, he’s a lot more liberal than people want you to know. And that’s what the party needs to offset the damage done by the neo-cons.
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A Romney presidency could pull the republican party back toward the middle where it belongs.
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But even though the republicans are not what they used to be (or what I want them to be), they’re still not as bad as what the democrats have turned into (the commie hippies now in control, they’re as crazy as they were in the 60’s)
But yes… that IS part of the reason. The side effect of creating jobs is that SOMEONE will get rich.
And I would argue that one of the biggest contributers to starting a business is the goverenment and our Tax dollars in the form of SBA backed loans and resources. And I don’t think the Dem and the current President is against money or business. But enough is enough. Why should someone making 25-35k more by percentage in taxes than someone who is making 1 million a year and only paying 15% ? how is that fair. Or why does a corporation that has made record profits over the last 5-8 years still need subsidies???? They don’t need corperate wellfare. I would be all for given tax breaks to companies that hire and manufacture here in America. But the last time we gave companies tax breaks they just used them to pay there stock holders. But Again i think the point is really being missed. If you go into business and make a lot of money great good for you. Your reward are your profits not garenteed tax breaks just to keep your money. And do i feel it is a problem that Mitt won’t release the same amount of tax records as his father and other candidates. Yes, But not because i am going to find if he is rich. (I already know that) But What is he hiding so much for? He will flip to become a Democrat tomorrow if it would get him in the White house.
Jobs will come when there is demand in the market. We just went through one of the worst recessions since the Great Depression. To get out of that we mobilized an untapped workforce ,Woman. And then we gave Europe (one of our biggest consumers)The same damn disease . So with money not being spent and demand is down why would I if i was company hire anyone? The rich don’t have a problem with healthcare or buying a car or finding loans so why does the government need to help them more than it already has?
If you are Rich great for you. I don’t envy you. But i would love to learn what you did to get there. But don’t forget that you need workers to help you build on you empire. And the health of them will determine the health of your business.
SO Lets recap. Just because you are Rich doesn’t mean you should pay less by % than someone who is not rich. As a business your biggest reward should be the money you make not the taxes you hide. And lastly everyone is not and will not be an entrepreneur. But we need everyone to chip in. If you don’t think so telling that to the garbage man.
I am self-employed. I make less that 100k, yet my total tax bill is around 51%. And now, the governemnt (who can’t stop their spending), is telling me that it’s my duty to pay more.
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It would be one thing if the governement had been there working shifts when I went 3 years without a paycheck working 70 hours per week, but it’s insulting when they come to me now claiming that I’m not chipping in my fair share.
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God only asks for 10%, the government wants it all.
I agree that the economy will pick up when demand increases, but demand is based on people working in secure jobs feeling they can afford to risk/spend their wages.
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If you want to increase demand… increase jobs. But again, that requires the initial capital.
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I am also opposed to corporate welfare. Stop ALL substadies in all industries. Free trade and fair trade
And I didn’t even get into the other reasons…
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… the way the democrats try to create a culture of dependency and inferiority in minority communities
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… the way the democrats take black votes for granted and play off their worst fears to keep their votes.
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… the way the democrats are willing to chuck the black vote (and go back to ignoring them) once the latino block gets larger and gets their attention
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Now that is something we can agree. But, I feel an underlying foundation of politics is manipulation, exploitation, and downright untruthfulness. Republicans would do the same as mentioned if minorities groups didn’t already see them as the enemy.
I disagree on that. As I’ve been saying for years, if there WAS such a thing as a solid black voting block, they could walk in and take over the republican party. The party would be so grateful to have them (both in terms of votes and in FINALLY looking like they weren’t the bad guy), they would give them the keys to the kingdom.
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Herman Cain as an example. Until that sexual harassment business came up, republicans were falling all over themselves trying to get on the Cain Train. As I’ve been saying for years, a sharp smart black man with no dirt in his/her past could walk in and run the joint.
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And the funniest thing is… once you take away the historical beefs, the name calling and the posturing… most black people (at least most of the black people I know)… are the philosophical definition of a republican:
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Don’t trust the government, keep your hand out of my pocket, stay out of my way while I make a buck, let me keep my guns, don’t try to bullshit me into giving you money, mind your own damn business… not only is this republican, it’s damn near tea party…lol.
I think the only reason Republicans hopped on the “Cain Train” was in an attempt to secure the Black vote. Just like McCain brought Palin along during the last election campaign in an attempt to secure the woman vote. More manipulation and exploition.
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I see myself as a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, if that makes any sense. I will never count myself as a Democrat or a Republican. By doing so I feel that I will have to agree with everything done by that particular party, Past and Present, and I don’t.
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I think that most people are a mix between the two parties. They will gravitate towards what is going on in their lives at that particular time and what seems to make their lives better and what is engraved in their heads by their background, the environment and the media.
See we almost agreed. The Democrats didn’t create a culture of inferiority and dependency. A slave master that whipped you when you tried to learn to read. Police Harassing you just for being black and being criticized just for being black . Hell even God (if you believe it is White LOL). Not being able to eat at the same table as other human beings. Having to fight for your right to take a piss in the same bathroom as a white guy and all of the institutions that have been built off of them. Or how about the Black face on TVs and People of color only being able to get hired in Jobs on TV as Buffoons. This was all the culture that was here and put on us. I don’t feel inferior to any man. But I do know i will have to work and perform twice as hard just to get the same things as someone else has who is not me. And this is not a complex but a reality. Just the other day a bank got in trouble again for unfair loans to anyone other than a white person.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/bank-of-america-to-pay-335m-to-settle-claims-of-unfair-loans/2011/12/21/gIQAEW7EAP_story.html
Again this is not complex as it is reality. And If i where you i would be just as upset with People like Mitt who don’t pay their fair share. Or spend some of that 100k and find the same accounts and bank accounts so you can pay 15% like Mitt.
And yet the slave master was a democrat. Look at the 1860 electoral map, and you’ll see it was the DEMOCRATS who tried to leave the country to keep their slaves.
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On the other hand… there is only one party that was formed SPECIFICALLY to end slavery… and that is the republicans.
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I think maybe we’re confusing republican and democrat with northerner and southerner. The problem has always been the SOUTH, no matter what party they jumped to/from.
Yes they were mostly found up north and the Democrats where down south and that also explains why MLK would have Been republican during that time. But in 1948 the Democratic party held a aggressive civil rights stance and and when President Harry Truman intergrated the armed forces the deep south walked out of the DNC. Later on in the 60s it was even more apperant. It not about Democrat vs Republican values expect the ones that likes slaves. If you look at the region and there politics you can figure out that people make the party not the party making the people. The South was Democratic and had slaves back then and wanted to keep their ways. The Northerners where republicans. Then when the Democrats changed their stance on civil rights the south switched to More conservative values.. The Republicans of old would be seen as democrats now.
Whenever I see talk about slavery it reminds me of how much trouble I used to get in to in school for writing papers musing about what the world, The Americas and UK in particular would be like had the traders never started their evil business and the subsequent people we would never have had grace the Earth. Thought provoking yes but sure pissed off a lot of people to have it pointed out to them that they would not even had been born.
Good points made by all but I have to say every time I hear “tax cuts for the rich” I cringe. While nowhere near poor, I certainly am not rich and both the Reagan era and Bush era tax cuts were very good for me while the Carter, Clinton and soon to be Obama era tax hikes were not good at all. Of course I remember Charlie Rangle calling people like me “greedy” from his mansion in the DR.
You might have hated the Clinton Era tax hikes but that is what helped balanced the Budget of this country. And that is what Bush wasted and started this BS we are in now. I am not Blaming Bush for the Housing crash. But I do blame him for the bad recovery. Without money coming in how are you going to balance a budget just with cuts. Even President Regan had to bring in tax hikes to cover the money he gave away.
Ahh, there’s that “Clinton balanced the budget” nonsense again. If you had watched the hearings you would remember that all he did was raid Social Security and used a little smoke and mirrors to make that ridicules claim:
HOLLINGS: Well, the truth is…ah, shoot, well, we all know there’s Washington’s math problem. Alan Sloan in this past week’s Newsweek says he spends 150%. What we’ve been doing, Mr. Chairman, in all reality, is taken a hundred billion out of the Social Security Trust Fund, transferring it over to the spending column, and spending it. Our friends to the left here are getting their tax cuts, we getting our spending increases, and hollering surplus, surplus, and balanced budget, and balanced budget plans when we continue to spend a hundred billion more than we take in.
That’s the reality, and I think that you and I, working the same side of the street now, can have a little bit of success by bringing to everybody’s attention this is all intended surplus. In other words, when we passed the Greenspan Commission Report, the Greenspan Commission Report only had Social Security in 1983 a two hundred million surplus. It’s projected to have this year a 117 million surplus. I’ve got the schedule, I’ll ask to put in the record the CBO report: 117, 126, 130, 100, going right through to 2008 over the ten year period of 186 billion surplus. That was intended; this is dramatic about all these retirees, the baby boomers. But we foresaw that baby boomer problem, we planned against that baby boomer problem. Our problem is we’ve been spending that particular reserve, that set-aside that you testify to that is so necessary. That’s what I’m trying to get this government back to reality, if we can do that.
I think you forget that there was a world before Europe. And there were great civilizations before Europe even thought about learning how to wipe its on *ss. So to me this is very irreverent. The reason I keep bringing up slavery is because it was a big part of the reason this society is here today. Without Slavery you wouldn’t this country like it is today or Brazil,Cuba,Jamaica,Haiti, DR most of the Americas. And slavery was one of the reasons to have the civil war (well at least a way to win it). And then to have a whole political party become changed by the advancement of equal rights with former slave masters it is kind of a big deal. Thats like saying whats all the talk about the Holocuast in regards to Israel. We can talk about the Holocuast which has nothing to do with what built this counrty but we have an issue with the talk about ONE MAJOR FACTOR this counrty even exist as it does now.
I do not think Timbuktu ,Mali Empire, Zulu Nations , Egyptian Empires and many more where trading with the rest of the world way before Europe came to Africa and other places. So to tell me that I should be happy that I was Enslaved because now i live a better life than i would have. LOL I would say a different life. But Ghana with all of its gold didn’t need Europe. So why would i be so great-full ? Yes I love my country. But do deny that we need work also and that we have a checkered past doesn’t help anyone understand how this country was built. And why we have such a big divide. We have people that are afraid to talk about the real history of this country and not just this Ideal one that doesn’t take into account all the things this country has done to its own people and the same way of thinking is the reason why we don’t understand why Israel is so hated and why 911 happened. No they don’t care about our freedom. They care about theirs..