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Saturday, December 3, 2011 | 4:34pm

Cain Out Of The Race

Posted by Malcolm

And start looking for Huntsman

As we predicted 26 days ago, Herman Cain has dropped out of the presidential race after multiple sex allegations claimed too much for his campaign.

If you want to get yourself ahead of the game (and your friends), you can start mentioning the name Jon Huntsman. I predict that we’re going to be hearing his name a lot in the next few weeks.

Huntsman is the only republican nominee left who hasn’t had his ‘day in the sun’.

Bachman came and went. So did Perry, and Paul. Santorum doesn’t count since he’ll never get near the nomination. That leaves Huntsman as the only candidate not allowed to step up to the camera to state his case to the American people.

Common sense and fairness hints that the media will figure out that he hasn’t got any air time, so I predict they will try to fill the void now that Cain is out.
As far as Cain goes…

What can be said that hasn’t already been said? We were on the Cain story early, and most of the regular readers have chimed in with their opinions.

I think we can all agree that Cain was undone by a shocking inability to understand how politics works.

The question that will eat at us will be the same as it was for Gart Hart and John Edwards: What was he thinking? How could he POSSIBLY think he could get away with it?

Maybe I’m being too hard. Maybe it’s more like Larry Hagmans character in the movie Primary Colors; where he came on too quick and didn’t know how to stop it.

But no, this wasn’t a draft movement. This was a deliberate candidacy. There was a point where Cain had to sign the papers agreeing to run. And it was at that point that his mind failed him.

Hint for anyone wanting to run for President: think of the nastiest thing you have ever poked in your drunken life. Think of the worst things you’ve ever caught yourself doing. And then imagine all of them being played 24 hours per day on the news.

Imagine all of the one night stands, and then picture them, 20 or 30 years older, with Gloria Alrod at their side talking about how they thought that you loved them.

And then remember… they WILL come out, they ALWAYS come out.

I have been convinced for years that the reason America can’t get qualified candidates is because no one in their right mind would submit themselves to this sort of attack.

The ones who are left over are the ones who don’t have a conscience to begin with; and therefore have no problem discussing their darker past. And what kind of leader does that give us?

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41 Responses to Cain Out Of The Race

  1. jimmyt says:

    Well put.

  2. 2NA$$TEE says:

    As I have said no 1 has any dirt on Pres.Obeezee when it came 2 him running in 2008 trust me if there was it would have come up, out, etc .Malcolm I know u r a Republican but what has Obeezee done or not done that u do not like ? I can tell u a bunch of shit about Hitler Bush Jr. I hated which I have mentioned on this site more than a few times.All true facts not me hating Google it. As 4 Jig Daddy Cain I saw this shit “cum’n” pun intended.I find it funny that AmeriKKKa when it comes 2 morality the President is suppose 2 have no skeletons yet when it cumz 2 Pastors,Preist,Teachers,etc we 4give them 4 their issues many times over.I am not saying any1 running 4 PolitricKKKs should not be as clean as possible but damn most of us have done some dirt or slept with some skank ass tramp 4 a quick nutt. However as much I dislike Cain not becuz he is a RepubliKKKlan. Some of my best friends R RepubliKKKlans but I think Jig Daddy Cain just learned his 1st lesson in PolitricKKKs ….that’s it’s hard out here 4 a Pimp…..especially when u 4play in the snow , as Ice Cube once said “Get a Grip Oreo and Be True 2 the Game”.

    • Malcolm says:

      I have nothing against President Obama.
      .
      In fact, I spent a lot of time and money helping him to get elected in 2008.

      • 2NA$$TEE says:

        Ok then Y n your opinion do u think Jigg Daddy Cain would be a better President? I actaully think he has some great ideas but not that 999 tax plan xxxcuse me “666 tax plan” he was coming with. I wish him luck with what he does maybe write a book like most do about his almost bid 4 President who knows.

  3. E.L.Diaz says:

    Oh nooooo! Herm, I’ll miss you! …..
    Let’s get Gingrich now!!!

  4. American says:

    I would like to know what evidence 2NASSTEE has to equate Pres Bush to Hitler. I see you have made references to KKK in your misspellings. Do you think that America is run by the KKK? Do you think that most white people are KKK? Do you think that most white people are racist? I see also by your post that grammer is not your best suit. How much do you know about Hitler? Do you know of the absolute racism he subjected the Jews to prior to rounding them up in the concentration camps? If you are as well versed in the dealings of Hitler as you assert, then I ask you. Were you or any non-white subjected to that kind of treatment during Bush’s term?

    American

    • E.L.Diaz says:

      You should check your “grammer” before you start questioning others’.

    • 2NA$$TEE says:

      Damn ….I feel like Ice Cube with the “No Vaseline” jam back in 1991 every so often I have 2 get at some1 who cumz at me “out of pocket”….so here we go again…1st of American, I compare Bush Bitch Jr. 2 Hitler the same way your precious HanKKK Wiliams Jr. compared Obama 2 Hitler and how ppl compare him and his family 2 monkeys,apes,the anti christ, etc. plus I compare Bush Hitler Jr on a smaller scale and FACTS to Hitler.1ST Bush killed thousands of innocent ppl over a lie and oil what makes it so cold is, it was his own service men and women over 4000 killed when he was in office , compared 2 the millions of Jews Hitler(sidenote he was half Jewish hmself) killed. Thats what I mean on a smaller scale the numbers but the same act 2 a degree. Bush was sent a memo about 9/11 b4 it happened and really didnt give 2 fucks or concern himself with ppl wanting 2 learn 2 fly airplanes but not concerned with them not learning 2 land them RED FLAG!!! Over 3,000 died on 9/11 at the WTC. RIP ,no I am not saying Hitler Bush had anything 2 do with 9/11 but damn keep it real Bush could have prevented it from happening.Capturing So Damn Insane whom did not have weapons XXXcept 4 the 1z the Un-United States supplied him with. Check it out on You tube playa xxxcuse me Player. I forgot u were saying my grammar appears to be a tad off.I’z so sorry suh donts mean to be so ignoRENT massah!! Now on 2 “mission accomplished” do u remember that lie ? Landing his ass on an Aircraft carrier saying all the fighting was over and get’n all those troops “gased up”and when he caught Bin Laden do u remember that….Hell No u don’t remember bcuz it didn’t happen he was never caught on Hitler Bush Jr’s watch matter of fact the Bin Laden family was the only family allowed 2 leave AmeriKKKa on 9/11 all other planes were 2 not fly(RED FLAG).I spell with the KKK bcuz this KKKunt…try was built on KKK values and beliefs ask the Native American,ask the African Americans ask any 1 DARKER THAN A NAPKIN. The myth is the White race is more dominate and every1 else ……Fuck em , it’s AmeriKKKuz rule of thumb.I beleive White people run this KKKuntry and will always run it but the 1z who run it are RACIST 2 the fullest your BanKKKs, Wall Street, KKKongress, White Supremist KKKourt,The Just-Us System, etc .Do I think all white ppl are racist of course not but I am not just going 2 pretend everything is Ok since we have an African American President if anything more racist acts will come about. Look as 4 being subjected 2 the treatment of what the Jews went through of course not . I was comparing some of his “I don’t give a fuck atttitude and his Wanna be Dickheadtatorship ideology” 2 that of Hitler’s on a much smaller scale of course . As 4 my grammar I have never claimed 2 be an XXXpert on grammar . I am an XXXpert on ppl who bullshit 2 the American public and most politicians do that well even my fav President Obeezee .Again I do “compare” did I spell that right 4 u ? I do compare Bush 2 Hitler but on a much smaller scale , he was the dumbest President ever but smart enough 2 surround himself with smarter ppl. Rove,Rice,Powell,Rumsfield,etc . I do admire 1 thing about George Hitler Bitch, he was not a punKKK or shook like our current President . KKKon….gress and others said we have 2 have proof of WMD b4 we go n2 Iraq but he was like Fuck u!!! We are going 2 invade Iraq anyway who is going 2 stop me ?! Do I think AmeriKKKa as a whole is racist ….yes it will always be that way it’s an AmeriKKKlan tradition,look how they blame President Obama 4 everything from the current economy 2 the Kennedy Assassination.Look I don’t know u 2 judge u on anything u r entitled 2 your opinion just as I am entitled 2 mine with that said……Nah I aint oops I meant I’m not going 2 come at u like I was about to. I was going 2 say something off the hook but I won’t just have a Merry Christmas and Hope u have a Happy New Year, American. Oh by the way American, grammar is spelled grammar not grammer as u so plainly spelled it out just FYI .

  5. American says:

    Thank you for the noting my misspelling of grammar. My proof reading needs improvement. If this country is run by the racist KKK, then how did a black man become president. Surely the racist powers that be would not allow one of “them” to be in the highest office in the land. As far as the WWD’s, if you recall the United States, after 9/11 went to the United Nations repeatedly with evidence that Iraq had these weapons. Photographs depicting the weapons being moved via wheeled transport. I don’t recall how long the US was engaged in presenting this info to the UN, as a result of these findings, Sadaam (however it is spelled) had ample time to remove them, hide them whatever. I do fault the US because as a soldier America has been reduced to a nation who must petition other nations to join us in battle with us is in stark contrast to the America of the 40’s when Pearl Harbor was attacked. Obama is nearing the end of his first term in office. What acts of racist behavior have increased as a result? Unless all media outlets are on some major campaign to cover up all Klan activity, then I would ask “where have they been since Obama took office. Yes, they still have their gatherings. But their power must be at an all time low to let a black man become president. Hear it said often by blacks ” know your history”. Do you know which political party gave rise to the Klan? Which political party gave blacks their 40 acres and a mule and which party took it away? Which party has it’s beginnings with the abolitionists? Which political party first gave blacks the right to vote? Also you mention as do other Bush haters that he is dumb. How does a dummy graduate from an Ivy league college? If you cite that Bush was not a good speaker, I will agree. But dumb? In high school, there was this boy named Mark though not one of eloquent speech, the guy was sharp as a tack. Straight A’s across the board.
    How in the world is Obama blamed for Kennedy being killed? As far as the economy, that began to take a nose dive before Bush left office. The ground work for that was laid buy some well meaning though delusional republicans during the 70′s and with additional policies that hindered or forced lenders to loan (and other factors)that is what led to this economy falling. Do you know that during Clinton’s term in office Army Delta operatives had Osama in their sights to take him out, but Clinton there order to stand down? This was after the first World Trade Center attack. As far as people wanting to airplanes as evidence that terroist where going to take down the WTC, my wife wants to fly one day. Does that make her a terrorist? What memo was given to Bush? Has this been public? If so, please inform me where I might reference this. So I am going to assume that a man of your background, being inundated with intel both false and creditable, would have picked out this fact and reasoned that the WTC would be attacked. Since you posses that kind of insight, then you are my pick for the next president. You call Bush a dictator. Of the dictators in history, Bush does not add up. Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Kim Il-Sung, and Augusto Pinochet just to name a few are some of histories dictators. There isn’t an american that can honestly say that their life under Bush resembled that under any one of the afore mentioned men.

    • E.L.Diaz says:

      Good Conversation…
      What I gather from your writings, American, is that you look at your country through rose-colored glasses…and 2NA$$TEE does not…and neither do I…Now, it’s your prerogative to choose to look at “things” as you want to, you can swallow as many blue pills as you like…but just as you choose to believe Fox News reports and the “American Revisionists” history textbooks, some of us choose to look at REALITY, cause and effect, and to not drink the kool-aid that the establishment keeps pouring down the masses’ throats.

    • 2NA$$TEE says:

      Look AmeriKKKlan I have not once came “out of pocket” about anything your KKK like mind has been brain washed 2 think as I stated , I respect your Purple Hazed opinion. I take it u watch FOX NEWS (Fascist Opressive Xtremist Nazi Entertainment White Stupidity) I am not knock’n your hustle on that. I will say as I have said b4 yes there is an African American President so the fuck what?!! He is the Jackie Robinson of Presidents . 1 toKKKen does not erase over 400 years of enslavement and not just in a physical aspect no we are not physically shackled or hung anymore but from a political,economical,educational and judicial stand point we are just as enslaved as we were b4 the RepubliKKKlan party and abolitionist saw that slavery was wrong “BACK THEN” of course now they might think different now . U didn’t think a Ghetto ass yet politically and socially aware gentleman like myself knew Republicans back in the day actually gave 2 fucks about blacks and their struggle,that was then American this is now AmeriKKKlan . As 4 me watching the news, I watch it more or less 2 prove my point so called mainstream media CNN,BSNBC,C THE B.S.,B.E.T uses racist propaganda(Did I spell that right Young Pimp’n? )2 further make minorities have an inferior complex as they have been doing time and time again. Look the KKK aint that powerful 2 stop a blackman from becoming President but since he has been in office he has been blamed for every issue facing this KKKunt…try from the economy, 2 education systems going wrong,oil spills, the war, etc. I was just being humorous about ppl blaming him 4 Kennedy being assassinated but if AmeriKKKa could blame OBAMA 4 that they would. Why is his being born in AmeriKKKa even a queston ?Last I checked Hawaii was part of the United States not some island Africa.It is bcuz he is black Why does he have 2 go through these bullshit roadblocks and bills/laws not being passed, bcuz he is black that’s y . Name me any other President that had 2 show proof he is a citizen of the Un-United States of AmeriKKKa? Name me 1 pleeeeeeeeaaaase. FOX NEWS ur news source says Obama may be the worst President ever in some polls hell I can say the same 4 George W. Hitler Bitch. Name me another President 2 be made fun of calling his wife and daughters monkeys, apes, and baboons family should be off limits period . I read alot of right wing mags and web sites just 2 prove my point. My statements have plenty of merit, playboy. 1 fact still remains Minorities r about 2 be the majority from Latin 2 Asian 2 African Americans etc and KKKrackuz r scared out of their mind .Ppl flying planes do not scare me but when u have people not wanting 2 know how 2 land a plane that should make a few people suspect.As I said Bush was smart enough 2 put a dream team admin 2gether so he would look smart . We do agree that AmeriKKKa or America is the greatest KKKunt…….try in the world. I do agree with u on that. There r places worse but never ever ever get the shit twisted that in AmeriKKKa every1 is equal(Only Rich, White Males, so sorry white women ur not included unless ur with a white male). I just hope U r white bcuz then I would understand ur thinking much better but if u r any other shade….then u have not only drank the Kool-Aid but u r coming back for 3rds and 4ths.Look I am no historian, nor am I claiming 2 be some know-it- all. I am however a Playa n life rep’n the West Coast and a proud 1st generation Hip Hop baby who happens 2 have been peep’n game about the goings on in AmeriKKKa 4 a loooooooooong time.I advise u 2 listen 2 Malcolm X and some of his speeches just 2 c if anything has changed since the 60′s not much o yea we have a African American President…AND? Shout Out 2 E.L. Diaz(what it do playboy?) 4 co signing .O by the way I knew Cain was through when the 1st name dropped, that is what we were talking about from jump right. Lol

  6. American says:

    No Mr. Diaz I do not see this country through the lense of rose colored glasses but I do know that with this countries many faults, there is not a greater country on the planet nor is there one that comes close. Yes I have read history and with that one must consult many sources. I am no expert. As I have gotten older, I realize that value of history whereas I loathed the subject in school. I take it that you get your news form the likes of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, or CBS. Perhaps you cater to none of these. Maybe your research hinges upon the knowledge of other disgruntled americans who assert their take on things and that serves as the gospel according to ________ thus truth. Well truth be told 2NA$$TEE does not view this country through rose colored glasses. His writing is evidence of that. Blacks are hated by the Klan. If they run this country, how did Obama become president? If the congress is full of them how did he become president and why is he still in office? His statements have no merit.

  7. American says:

    Well Mr. Diaz I am sorry that you are giving up. I thought we could have carried out a meaningful dialogue of point counter point with both us learning from one another. Perhaps the questions that I have asked can be answered from someone else in the Highbrid Nation audience. By the way I do get it. A black man is the president of an overwhelmingly racist nation (per disgruntled blacks), no blacks were stripped of their rights, placed in death camps during Bush’s 8 years as president, not one lyunching has taken place since Obama became president, unemployment during the Bush years was 4-5% whereas Obama’s is 9-10%. Mr Diaz I encourage you to do some homework. That is not meant as a put down.

    • 2NA$$TEE says:

      Oh we can deb8 my most educated lad all day I am back in that ass and not the way u want me 2 be. Bush xxxcuse me Bitch had this KKKuntry so jacked up by the time he left office it’s going 2 take another 12 yrs just 2 get it back on track.Not the 2 weeks America gave Obama b4 calling his Presidency a failure. U r right there were no black stripped of their rights but that has not happened 2 whites since President Obama has been in office , they were, they meaning KKKrackuz aka racist white ppl they were saying the world is ending, we will be slaves, they are going 2 do 2 us what we did 2 them, calling Obama the anti Christ wtf?!! As 4 the unemployment u must have not checked Ur Idol Ronald Reagan when he was in office with unemployment up at 8-9% the whole time he was in office.All Presidents have had some fuck ups so 2 come and say Obama has had the worse approval rating check X president Beeyotch he rating was almost at 22% and if u want 2 blame any1 4 Obama being in the Outhouse blame Hitler Bush he made it so bad 4 white presidents even white ppl voted 4 Obama Blacks only make up 4 13% of the population now u go do ur homework AmeriKKKlan.

  8. American says:

    You stated “As 4 the unemployment u must have not checked Ur Idol Ronald Reagan when he was in office with unemployment up at 8-9% the whole time he was in office” When Reagan took over the office, he inherited a 12% unemployment rate from Jimmy Carter and brought it down to 5%. Please explain how was the country so jacked up when Bush left office when Obama got a stimulus passed that has not created jobs, the money still isn’t spent and alot of it went to infrastructure which is not a lasting fix on unemployment? We are now so far in debt that it will never be paid. Liberals harked on Bush’s spending but his no where approached what Obama’s. Do I hear Liberals complaining? You cannot solve this crisis by printing more money. That devalues the dollar. As far as white people voting for Obama, were independent voters or conservative? As you may know the indepedent vote is highly sought after. Since you are here, maybe you can tell me how are black man became president of this so called racist nation. With as many references as you make to the KKK, surely you know. As far as homework, could you please answer the questions posed to Mr. Diaz that he had no answer for. Let’s witness your homework skills. May I also add that Mr Diaz did use insults in making his points. Can you tell me why you disagree with the 999 plan. So I take it that you like the current tax system the way that it is or if this had been proposed by someone other than a republican it would be well received.

    • 2NA$$TEE says:

      It’s amazing how KKKon…servatives will say Reagan came into office with a debt from Carter but when I say the same thing, people say it was from Clinton not Bush Hitler .As I stated b4 I think the people who run this KKKunt…try overall have a KKK type of ideology,mentality etc .I noticed u have not answered any of my questions either .I also want 2 add that there has been a quote from the circles of the RepubliKKKlan party,which their main objective is to get Obama out of office that has been their goal since day 1 . Not bcuz they think he is doing a poor job as President(that might be part of it) but bcuz he is black .Again I ask name me 1 President that had to show proof he was an American or born in America and just because you were born in AmeriKKKa does not make u an American , if a person is constantly treated or refered to as a “2nd class citizen” not in name but the actions that are displyed on a daily bases. Look u will never c what I see and vice versa , nor am I giving up debating with u but I find that Liberals , KKKon…servatives,Demoncrats,RepubliKKKlans ,Right-Wing Left-Wing all of it is BULLSHIT !!!! I would never just go Demon…crat on every issue and I am as Liberal as they cum….plus I loooove having sex with White women which keep my militant like mind balanced at times.All of those labels sound like Gang Bang’n “I am from a red state , I am from a blue state” . I tell people just listen 2 the issue be logical and open minded about it then form an opinion. None of these politicians care about u, me,E.L.Diaz, Mr.Bad Guy Juan Malcolm or any1 4 that matter , they are in it “4 the love of $” power and prestige .As my Playa Potna E.L. said it’s a game that has been played and planned b4 1776.It’s amazing though how ppl 4get the mess Bush put us in yet blame President Obama 4 everything . Another question Capt.American Y didn’t McCain/Palin get elected if this no experience having 1 term Senator has no XXXperience …..bcuz Obama had the better Con, that’s Y. As we say in the Hip Hop community he spit the best 16 bars son.His Cypher was mad sharp .He lied the best but that’s just my opinion but I will still vote 4 Obama unless there is a RepubliKKKlan who can lie better and not be so obvious about their KKK mind set. By the way Thanks 4 serving your KKKuntry.

  9. American says:

    Correcttion. Mr. Diaz did not use insults in making his points.

  10. E.L.Diaz says:

    Mr. American: I didn’t give up, sometimes I just don’t have the energy to argue with someone that isn’t going to either see or accept my points…and I was at work, so I try to come in and out of HN before my boss notices…….
    I think you are coming in and seeing opinions and reacting to what you are reading without knowing the background … many of the regulars here at HN have been arguing out our points for several years and much of this has been re-hashed time and again……
    While I get my news from many sources, including tv and internet, I take it all with a grain of salt. I have the benefit of having lived in another country and have seen the work of the different US administrations, without the interference of the mainstream media…Many of us, like 2NA$$TEE, CHAMP_415, Mr. Bad Guy (just to name a few, there are others) bring a formal education, world travel, a “Hood Pass”, high degree of intelligence and intellect and just common sense to the different subjects….When I see something reported on the news, I wait for the other shoe to drop. The US government has a history of Murdering anyone who gets in the way of what they want (to continue the “American way of life”), raping countries of their natural resources and continuing to opress those people by installing puppet governments…and this is after they killed, abducted and enslaved tens of millions of Black, Brown and Red people, in order to take this land and make it the country that it is today…and today, continue a system where Caucasians have a priviledged position at the top of the pyramid…and we are supposed to like it?! But we still go to work, raise our families, pay our taxes, and carry the burdens of this country on our backs……you don’t understand because you are looking at the world through glasses tinted a different color, thus your perspective is quite different…George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee are not my heroes…neither are hoodlooms, gangbangers, Bernie Madoff, or Charlie Sheen….

    Oh, and that stuff about this or that president being better…that’s crap! they have all been playing a shell game since…1776!

  11. American says:

    Mr Diaz I once habored the feelings that whites are trying to keep the black man down. This country is so very racist so on and so on. So it is not that I am not seeing things in reality because I am. I do realize that not all whites are racists but we excuse the racist sentiment held by blacks and proclaim it justified due to what whites did to us as slave owners etc etc. What countries have the US raped of their natural resouces? If Iraq is factored in then have gas prices continued at over $3.00 per gallon? Iraq hold free elections that did not happen during Saddam’s reign. Like I said before. The US has many faults, this the best country on the planet and there isn’t another country that even close. The above mentioned men are not my heroes either but I am greatful for the country they created.

    • 2NA$$TEE says:

      R u serious what place has the US not raped and stolen and enslaved(Meaning the Government not individuals) . Did u 4get AmeriKKKa and it’s government is the reason crack came 2 light in the early 2 mid 80′s and has been here since. Hitler Bush Sr was in the Reagan admin as VP and former CIA director but was well aware of the DRUG dealings of latin Countries but still worked with them. Go 2 wikipedia and type in CIA drug trafficking. I guess u 4get this KKKunt…try and it’s dealings with wanna be DickHEADtators. Noreiga,they used 2 supply So Damn Insane aka Saddam Hussien with weapons so he could invade Iran,I notice Bush talked alot of shit when it came 2 DickHEADtators having weapons but Kim-Jong-Il said str8 up Yes we in North Korea have weapons and will use them….Bush never got at Kim about weapons bcuz like most political bullies he knew who 2 fuck with and who not 2 fuck with. As 4 Gas prices going up since the Iraq Invasion yes they have went over 3.00 r u serious just within the last 2 weeks has Gas prices went down below the 3 dollar mark. It will be going up again soon trust me so FILL UP NOW .U just stated AmeriKKKa has it’s faults NAME THEM 4 ME PLEASE. I need u 2 name me those faults since u have this sick notion in your head that AmeriKKKA is so wonderful. I now realize u r not white but figured that awhile back but I was hoping I was wrong . I would understand your cloud of confusion and illusion of inclusion if u were a white male but u r not , so that means u have already came back 4 5th on that Kool-Aid drink up playboy drink up!!

  12. American says:

    What does it matter that I not white. I am a black man, military, former liberal now conservative. The faults I find with this country are as follows.1) This country has lost it’s place of prominence in the world. 2)The US has allowed unions to over throw private sector jobs thus making it more expensive for a company to operate which is one reason companies have chosen to go overseas. 3) Big government. 4)Dependence on foreign oil. 5)High taxes both on the individual, Mom and Pop businesses, and corporations. 6) The enormous debt that we are under thanks to a stimulus bill that did not stimulate anything except pet projects and as I stated earlier infrastructure. 7) High unemployment thanks in part to the prohibitive regulations placed on banks and other lending instituions. 8) The health care bill that was passed without the elected officials knowing the full content save for the installments they included. Well, there you have at least eight reasons. Race predominates the mind of blacks. I guess the historical questions will go unanswered. I guess 2NA$$TEE you know that Bush chose not to mess the North Korea because you are privey to information that the rest of the nation isn’t? Unless there is someone in this audience who has or had access to the classified info that weighed on the presidents decision not to go after North Korea, you do not know. You are making an assumption and passing it as fact. And you know that the government brought crack to the US how? Is there a book that outlines this? If so which book so I can purchase it. Perhaps there is some declassified document? I am well aware of the Iran Contra affair of the 80′s. Mr Diaz I appologize for making the assumption that you gave up. 2NA$$TEE Sen McCain showed proof of his citizenship because his birth place was the Panama Canal zone. Who called Obama’s family monkeys, apes and so on? I will address the McCain/ Palin thing. McCain (a RINO) had a lack luster campaign. True conservatives did not like him. But of the choices, he was the best. His campaign only took off at the coming of Palin, a true conservative. By the end of the Bush term, there were many disgruntled voters. If I recall correctly, independent voters which sided with Obama. Like I said before they are a prized slice of the political pie.

    • E.L.Diaz says:

      It does matter that you are not white. How can you be so brainwashed that you don’t see what is going on today, what has been going on…ever in this country?! … to your points:
      1) This country first gained its prominent position in the world by being a bully, stealing, murdering, undermining and then overthrowing governments and twisting arms until other countries submitted. There is only so long a country can do this. So, history buff, see Rome, Egypt and the English empires. Other countries got fed up with it and it’s like the small kid who has been beat up so many times by the bully: he goes to the gym, works out and takes self-defense classes. One day, he turns around and kicks the bully’s ass. The U.S.’s immoral/illegal means of gaining this prominence ensured that it would lose it.
      2) Unions have ruined the economy (in a nutshell). GREED has ruined this country’s economy. Of course unions are part of it, it’s run by people with the same mentality. They play this Spy vs. Spy game, but at the end of the day, union leadership is in bed with big business (much like lobbyists and politicians). They make “mutually benficial” deals.
      3)Big Government?! It’s a big country! there are 300 million people and 50 states to run. One state’s economy is bigger than most of the rest of the world’s countries’..Big government did not start yesterday, it developed from the end of the Civil War on.
      4)Dependence on foreign oil comes from GREED! this government plays political games in the middle east in order to keep the ILLEGAL/IMMORAL state of Israel from being wiped out. The Israeli lobby is so powerful that A- a wealthy, modern, infrastructured ountry of 6 million gets upward of 5 BILLION in aide every year from the U.S., while the entire continent of Africa, with over one BILLION people, receives about 500 MILLION annually…I said immoral in part because when S. Africa was sanctioned by the UN due to its apartheid government, Israel refused to stop trading with them and served as a middle-man for the U.S. to keep trading with them too…B-the U.S. bases it’s foreign policy and military strategy in that region based on Israel’s security. The dependence on foreign oil is not only to have a military presence in Arab countries/N. Africa, but also so that Exxon/Mobile and other multinational oil companies (BP) can make record-setting profits year after year–as well as many other nameless companies.
      5)High taxes on individuals, small businesses. Again, Big Brother is in bed with Big Business! Big companies/lobbyists run this country! They have had politicians in their pockets forever. It didn’t get to be like this in the past 20 years. This was a progression since the Industrial Revolution…Manifest Destiny was talking about stealing this country from the natives, in order for the rich to get richer! sounds familiar?
      6)The enormous debt we are under was NOT due to a stimulus bill, how blind are you?! How about spending 3.7 TRILLION dollars in UNNECESSARY/ILLEGAL/IMMORAL WARS since 2001?! only to benefit big oil–W. Bush’s and Cheney’s companies and lackeys.
      7)High unemployment based on prohibitive regulations placed on banks…did you write that with a straight face?! the same GREEDY-ASS banks that mismanaged their money so badly that they needed BILLIONS of our tax money in order to give themselves more bonuses?! … Freddie MAC, for example, who gave your illustrous presidential candidate, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, 1.5 Mil in order to make sure legislation was killed before it reached the senate floor that would have streamlined them…The same FM who in 2006 spent 11 Mil on Washington lobbyists….Banks have to be regulated like a crackhead needs to be kept from the crackhouse! They can’t help themselves!
      8)The healcare bill passed like thousands of other bills before it…I can’t go to the Dr. right now because I can’t afford healthcare. It’s sickening (no pun intended)… I work hard, pay my taxes…This is some Bullsh*t!
      Finally, next time you come on HN and espouse your beliefs, come hard, or don’t say anything at all! We are NOT sitting around lamenting being Black/underserved/whatever! We are adult men and women who sometimes need to vent and a great soapbox is provided for us here.

      2NA$$TEE, you da man, thanks for saving some for me.

      • 2NA$$TEE says:

        No Thank U, E.L.Diaz 4 coming with fact not fiction 4 this Gentleman. American U can continue 2 use your FOX NEWS facts if u want but most ppl on this site agree that AmeriKKKa has done a few immoral and criminal like activities in her 200 plus years.Yes this is a great Country xxxcuse me KKKunt…try but never 4get how AmeriKKKa was developed and continues down that same path of so called dominance……through not giving a damn about it’s ppl but caring more about it GREED. The Saga Continues.

      • 2NA$$TEE says:

        All of this from Jig Daddy Cain pulling out of the Presidential Race….LMMFAO.

  13. American says:

    Gentleman thank you for the debate. There is no need to come hard. I like a spirited debate. Mr Diaz thank you for your input. I enjoyed the ammunition you used in presenting your case.

    • Malcolm says:

      @ American
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      I don’t recall seeing you here before. If this is your first visit, WELCOME!
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      Around here, we love to argue about everything. Spirited, but friendly. And, like the President when he plays basketball with the secret service, unafraid to throw an occasional elbow…lol
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      Highbrid Nation is a good place to exercise your brain. The mental process of arguing your opinions, of composing complex thought benefits both the author and the reader.
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      I think I speak for everyone when I say that I hope you will continue to visit the site and join in on the discussion. I haven’t seen 2NA$$TEE and E.L.Diaz worked up this much since the last time I took them on.
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      And speaking of 2NA$$TEE… Like you, I had a hard time at first translating his writing style. It seems like a mix between texting-shorthand, Hip Hop, and some occasionally obscure references.
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      It’s not easy to translate at first, but like learning any language, it makes more sense after you’ve been reading it for a while.

      • 2NA$$TEE says:

        Mr.Malcolm thanks 4 the love I think…Lol but as u call it “my writing style” is a mix of Hip Hop/Street slang which I looove hip hop as a culture 2nd I put those 3K in words like AmeriKKKa bcuz we all know including Republicans what time it on with race relations here .My writings may be a bit weird 2 most but all in all it’s tha same message as most on here….LISTEN TO THE ISSUE, THINK 4 A HOT MIN, AND THEN FORM AN OPINION .I just figured on ths site I can be myself and use my Slanguage the way I see fit.2NA$$TEE AKA AmeriKKKUZ Nightmare.

  14. Mr. Bad Guy says:

    Where was I when all this was going on?

    • Malcolm says:

      lol… I know what you mean. Go out for a sandwich and you miss everything.

    • 2NA$$TEE says:

      U missed it Mr.Bad Guy it was a hot 1 , this thing went on 4 a few days , I have nothing against my man American even thanked him 4 serving his Country and the whole 9 but my Playa Potna E.L. was co signing all the way . We just had differences of opinion that’s all nothing wrong with that.He thinks it’s America the Beautiful…I think it’s AmeriKKKa the Ugly. It’s all love on my part tho .

  15. Mr. Bad Guy says:

    I not going to go back and start replying to back comments, for I probably have a comment for about everything that was written. Things said here are common arguements and I know I will the opportunity to speak on and reply to similar commmentary and comments in the future. I find that my political agenda any given day is “touch and go” depending on the topic at hand and my opinons are mostly based logic, and personal experience. 2NA$$TEE, E.L. and American all have very valid points, as conflicting as they were.
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    Welcome aboard American.

  16. 2NA$$TEE says:

    On some real talk though , I suggest u all peep out a web site called ALEC Exposed , as I said b4 I go 2 alot of Right Wing Ultra KKKonservative sites but this site I just mentioned is a site exposing American Legislative Exchange Council 4 what they are trying 2 do politically.

    • E.L.Diaz says:

      Wow! thanks for the tip, I just read up on ALEC…smh…supports our points we just finished talking about! and the thing is, they get away with this kind of stuff all the time…playing with a stacked deck! and we missing ALL the face cards!

      • 2NA$$TEE says:

        E.L. our point was made 2 the full and I appreciate the co sign on my points and u also made so very valid points .As I stated I go 2 sites most Liberals like myself would be scared 2 even look at much less read about.I do think Republicans have some good ideas overall just Democrats but neither 1 want 2 work 2gether because both think they have the answer.Well my “Playa Potna” that was fun hope Capt.American stays on the site and hear from him again. Stay up E.L.

  17. E.L.Diaz says:

    This is what Tiger Woods has to look forward to if he ever tries to run for any type of elected office, LMAO! I don’t think he’s that dumb!

    • 2NA$$TEE says:

      Tiger barely won his 1st golf tourny recently , him running 4 any political position would be suicidal 2 his career.If not 2 himself.

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