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Thursday, June 17, 2010 | 4:59am
Seattle Cop Punches Black Teenage Girl in the Face After Jaywalking
Was this all necessary? Let the Racial Determination Commitee Convene
#PoliceBrutality #MarilynLevias #IanWalsh
Somewhere along the line every man was told not to hit a woman. And yet every day police officers respond to thousands of cases of domestic battery in which that very thing happens. But what if its the police officer doing the hitting? Well that was the case when Seattle police officer Ian P. Walsh cold duffed 19 year old Marilyn Levias in the grill with a right cross while trying to subdue during an altercation which took place after he approached her on suspicion of all things….JAYWALKING!According to the official report filed by Officer Walsh, after witnessing her “infraction” on a busy street, he approached Levias and got straight robocop on her.
“You have jaywalked and you are required to identify yourself so that I can issue a citation. If you refuse you will be arrested for obstruction.”
After hearing the ridiculousness of the charges, Levias reportedly kept it moving (probably with a smh or two). Robocop then attempted to grab her at which point onlookers started filming the video you see above including the Mike Tysoneque blow to the grill.
Ok, while I understand the act of punching a suspect is an approved tactic by many police departments as a means of submission but isn’t using discretion part of most handbooks as well? First of all its a woman and you’re not trying arrest her for a violent crime she walked against the light bro. If she skates on you take the el and move on.
I’d like to call a special session of the Racial Determination Committee (RDC) on this one as the suspect is black. Would it be fair to say this would have NEVER happened had a police officer witnessed a white male business man jaywalking? Yo seriously…what IS jaywalking? Is there a pedestrian’s bill of rights we’re supposed to read prior to embarking on a stroll down the sidewalk? You don’t even need a license to cross the street so how can you issue a ticket let alone get duffed in the grill.
Would it be safe to assume that shorty was probably acting all wild and unruly probably throwing a few curse words around while crossing the street which caught the Officer Robocop? Realizing he had no basis of reprimand other than a jaywalking citation he “rolled with the punches”? Kind of reminds me of that 15 year old girl who caught it because she flicked her shoes off incorrectly after being arrested.
Given the relationship between the black community and the police force committed to “protect and serve” following the oh so friendly cases of Rodney King, Amadou Diallo and Sean Bell I’m not surprised Levias ignored Robocop’s preposterous citation. It doesn’t change the fact she was wrong in how she behaved…hell we see it every day but does it mean she got what she deserved? Hmmmmmm….
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I wouldn’t wanna be a cop for many reasons. They have a tough and at times thankless job. HOWEVER, this sh*t is ridiculous! As one who has been in several altercations with the “men” in blue already, I don’t give a Fu*K about their badges or guns. As a man (a human being, really) we have the right to defend ourselves against anyone attacking us…
I caught my first (and only) charge at age 16. After hopping the train, instead of giving me my ticket, the cop slapped me in the face after I told him to just do his job, give me my ticket and let me be on my way (he was trying to “interrogate” me)…I punched him in the face 5-6 times and ran when he went for his gun, but backup was coming down the steps already and I ended up fighting several cops and getting a Rodney King beating before the age of the video phone (DAMN! lol)…when I went in front of the judge the next morning (they never even took me to the Dr. I had a broken nose and jaw) and the charges against me were read, I went off in court and asked the judge to look at them and look at me and tell me who assaulted whom….
I’m sure many people have similar stories. And, that is not my only one either….
Something about a little bit of power makes people crazy…
Wow thanks for sharing that stroy. That was in New York? So what happened? What did they charge you with? Did you do time? More than anything police don’t like getting challenged about being wrong. They’re trained not to admit any wrongdoing. Instead beat your ass, take you to jail and discuss their actions later behind closed doors.
Yep, that was in NY. I had no previous record and was a straight A student, my coaches, teachers, even my principal were character witnesses, so I got charged as a juvi and sentenced to probation and community service. Today, 16 year olds get charged as adults for the same thing…
People were not put on this earth for other people to use and abuse, and it enrages me when I see it…I gues that comes from being the smallest kid everywhere I went growing up, and always having to fight…because there is ALWAYS an A*hole (and sometimes he has a badge).
Damn E.L., I feel for you…I can’t help but to hate them as well, and Juan hit the nail on the head, “they are trained not to admit any wrongdoing. Instead beat your ass, take you to jail and discuss their actions later behind close doors.” How can you respect that? I’ll protect myself thank you.
Wow!!! Thats not true and what would need to be discussed after he comment a crime, and then assaulted a police officer but him getting his ass kick like he did. Juan I am applauded that you would even make a comment like that. This site is getting too liberal. Only in the USA can people out right disrespect police and believe they could get away with this stuff and nothing should happen to them after. I would love to hear this same scenario in another country, and see what would have happened to you. At the end of the day you dont get a summons for jumping in NYC so there was no summons for you to get
What? I’m not getting what you’re saying. Disrespecting a police officer? That mufucka slapped me for no reason and I’m supposed to take that sh*t? I was 16 years old in 1983, so I don’t know what the subway laws are like now. If they actually charge you with something for hopping the train. Back then, it was a $15 ticket that you mailed in. That cop was so way out of line for doing that and then was a punk who couldn’t handle a straight up fistfight! Then, the rest of the gang had to jump in and do what they do…we live in the USA. So it’s irrelevant to talk about what would happen in other countries. As an adult, I respect the laws and if I were to break a law, then I expect those charged with enforcing the law to respect and enforce the law properly. Fact is, plenty of police officers and government officials break the law, violate people’s rights and disrespect people because they feel an undue sense of power. They lie and stick up for each other in court and the judges know it and condone it. There are differences between dangerous criminals and regular people who break the law. Plenty of cops know the difference and act accordingly. Guys like the one on that video and the one I’m talking about don’t.
Now RuthlessNYC you and I have had conversations about particular situations in which officers may have been wrong in their actions but higher ranking officer will let them rock until later where they’ll discuss their actions. Don’t act like that stuff doesn’t happen. Highbrid has ALWAYS had a voice. The same voice. Maybe you need to check yo self bruh. Maybe its you whose gone too far right.
I feel like some other action could have been taken…. Shawty was out of line in the way she was poppin off, but she didn’t deserve to get kissed by the right cross to jaw…
I’m going to side with the cop on this, and I don’t think it has anything to do with race.
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The woman in the black shirt was resisting arrest, and the woman in the red shirt decided to join in on the fight. Even after the woman in red got hit, the woman in black tried getting the cop from behind.
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There is a time and a place to argue; and there is a time and place to go along with the rules.
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If you have a problem with the cop, fight him in court. If you have a problem with a politician, you have a chance every 2 years to vote. You do NOT have a right to resist arrest, even if the cop was wrong in arresting you. If the cop was wrong, you have a chance to fight them and sue them later, but not on the street.
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Frankly, I’m not sure who the hell the woman wearing the black shirt thinks she is, but she doesn’t get a pass on the rules, and she doesn’t get to decide when a cop can and cannot detain her. In this case, had she not resisted, had the woman in red decided NOT to join in on the fight, none of this would have happened.
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But you can’t have it both ways. If you want the cops to stop the murderers, the drive by shooters, and the crazy drug-fueled nutzos, you can’t also claim the right to decide on your own when the law will be enforced.
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I don’t know why she was stopped. If it was for jaywalking then I would question the reason the cop stopped her. But once she decided to use violence, he had every right to arrest her. Personally, given the dangerous situation the cop was in with the crowd, we’re damn lucky there weren’t shots involved.
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Let’s turn the story around. Let’s say it was a black cop, a white perp, and a crowd of white people surrounding them calling out verbal attacks on the cop. What would our opinion be then?
And as a follow up, let me tell you a true story.
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Shelby Township Michigan, a suburb of Detroit not far from where I live.
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A bunch of rich young white kids hanging out behind a building. A cop comes to move them along, and the kids decide to jump the cop.
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Out comes the night stick, and you wind up with 4 kids in the hospital. Their parents decided to picket in front of the police station, because (of course) their little angels would never do anything wrong.
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You know what… those little rich white kids got what was coming to them. Why? Because you don’t attack a cop and you don’t resist arrest.
I don’t disagree with you there. I question the statistics. There’s no coincidence. Racial Profiling exists.
Cosigning this statement 100%. Everyone is so quick to hate on a cop until they really need one. Can you imagine what our society would be like without them? Of course, I can’t say that all of them are great cops, but a large majority are just regular folks like us who just want to collect a paycheck and go home to our families.
Even if the stoppage was silly, she couldve just taken the ticket and fought it in the future. But in our culture, we are taught to rebel against the police, which is a losing battle out the gate. So now, in addition to the ticket, she also get a resisting arrest charge. And the 15 yr old gets an obstruction of justice charge and assaulting an officer charge, and for what? Because she didn’t want to show him ID?! She has to ask herself, was it even worth it?
That’s my point Malcolm. There would never have been a black cop trying to beef with a white person for jaywalking. Can we even call a jaywalker a perp?
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Shorty was WRONG. There’s no doubt about that. The second girl was 15 years old. She obviously was brought up in a culture not to respect the law. That’s not the average citizen’s fault though. The perception in the community is that cops are there to HARM. Its law enforcement, who oh by the way are paid by our tax money’s responsibility to extend the olive branch.
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Even I get nervous whenever I see a cop because even as a law abiding citizen I’ve been bothered and even arrested once just for being me. Difference is I didn’t fight. I’m sorry if I feel race has something to do with it but the facts are there’s a starkly lower percentage of these incidents happening to white folks. This is also coming from someone whose best friend is a cop.
Stupid yes, but most certainly NOT racist… why are we, as blacks, so quick to call individuals racist?! This is becoming the most incorrectly used word to the point that is doesn’t even hold much weight anymore. There are so many actions that are 10 times over racist and deserving of national attention to end the ignorance, but a cop that was clearly overwhelmed with two rowdy teens is NOT racist. Why are people overlooking the actions of the teens? Who taught them (parents) to be so disrespectful of police and authority? And to use the language that they were using… and to attack an officer? Why is that ok? Because they’re black, and we like to use the race card whenever something happens as a result of our own actions… I say this from the actions the cop took wasn’t racist, the reason they were getting a citation, hmm, maybe that was racist, non-the less once the arrest is being made, if you agree or disagree you have no right to act as such….I still don’t think she should have gotten punched..
No one said anything about racism. I was just noting the disparities based on race.
Oh shiiiit u know I am going 2 call the shit what the fucKKK it is , plain out racism . KKKops and African Americans have always have had and always will have a not so balanced relationshit xxxcuse me real…..lationship with 1 another. Let me ask the Nation someting . Have u ever saw a police brutality case or heard of 1 involving a white male or a white female 4 something as silly as Jigga Jay Walking that’s punKKK shit.White people have to damn near kill 30 folks b4 a KKKop does anything 2 em. Watch KKKops the TV show and u will c trailer trash white boys cussing the PIGS out calling them assholes and Fuck U’s etc do they get Mike Tyson 1986 beatdowns or Rodney King combo deals no !!!They get sir are u ok in the backseat and the KKKracka is like fuck u Asshole KKKop.Everytime I was pulled over I fucked up so my shit was not racial , if u r driving 90 in a 65 then yes u deserve 2 get pulled over like my shituation but 4 this lady 2 get punched in the face is just insane. She won’t be the last every since Rodney King it’s really got’n worse real bad.It is going 2 be worse murders even ala Sean Bell.What can we do though? Hope and pray we won’t be next ?Get yo mind right stop being bitches KKKilling each other 4 rims we already got Pea Party, KKK, AmeriKKKa is pissed at US . President Obama speak on this topic sometime when every1 i worried about whales and wildlife.Help the endangered species of Afrcan Americans .
Of course they don’t beat their asses on “Cops” cuz the cameras are rolling.
The Camera was rolling when Rodney King got mashed on back in March of 1991 but did that stop the end result hell 2 the no.Be it the show KKKops or no show KKKops r going 2 kick ass and KKKill some black ass as long as we just sit by and not say or do shit. Oh Yea Fuck Some not all Police!!
Malcolm, the cop is obviously exercising poor judgement (at least) by trying to issue a jaywalking ticket. No question we want “to stop the murderers, the drive by shooters, and the crazy drug-fueled nutzos.” However, we also want cops to have common sense! Perhaps you don’t know why the girl was stopped because for the most part, it is Caucasian cops stopping Black people for little or no reason and then exacerbating situations. If you (and your family/friends) don’t get harrassed/questioned by police over insignificant stuff or nothing at all, then you have no idea how frustrating that is…I’m a law-abiding citizen who raise my children to respect authority. I still get stopped for NOTHING. When it happents, I am respectful and don’t have any problems because: I have no warrants, the plates on my car are mine, my license is not suspended, etc. A few years ago, I had to lock my car doors and call 911 because a cop was so out-of-control, yelling at me to get out of my car, for no reason. I was “rescued” by a black cop I know, who was nearby and de-escalated the situation (fortunately, he outranked the other cop). I was allowed to go on my way without even a ticket…I’ve been stopped numerous times, while walking to the store, because of “reported burglaries” in the area. I asked the cop once if he saw a TV on my shoulder (he laughed at that one). They always have to let me go because I’m clean. However, when they do that with a person who has a criminal record/history, even if the person has no warrants and is not breaking the law, they usually take them downtown. They do this in order for their record to continue to grow and if they get caught up in something again, that person looks worse to a judge/jury…that is not right! If a guy is on parole, that’s police contact, subject to be violated. That can mean up to two more years locked up, for nothing! Just because the cop is a racist. And these stops are race-based, no question about it. They mostly happen to Blacks/Latinos, by Caucasian officers.
Like I said there’s no denying the statistics.
I agree with you. This racial crap is just that crap. The woman in black was wrong for resisting. The cop could have used more force to get her to comply but instead used restraint. The woman who joined in was wrong. Now this cop is defending himself against two. Quit making this about race! The comment by E.L.Diaz should by no means be glorified. You punched the cop in the face 5-6 times and ran. You hopped a train thus breaking the law and you whine about him wanting to interrogate you? If you had kept your mouth shut, you might not have gotten a charge. You got what you deserved for hitting a cop. The sad thing is your behavior is supported and endorsed by those like you and those who moderate this site.
American. We value all opinions on this site. We encourage open and healthy debate. Your opinion is welcome and valid. I think the discussion has somewhat departed from the videotaped situation. My point about race was only to point out that there is a racial disparity with regard to police altercations like this.
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I entertain all theories on why this is. I invite you to read the subtitle again. I was posing a question to spark debate. Are African American’s naturally just more disrespectful to cops thus necessitating such actions? I don’t know. The fact is that black folks are involved in these incidents more than their white counterparts and that’s all I intended to point out.
Let me give you a personal account. I got into a very heated argument with my employer. Police were called to the scene who were reputed to be very racist in Yorktown, Va. I continued running off at the mouth to my then employer. These white so called racist cops had every right to cuff me but they didn’t. In my anger towards my employer, I didn’t resort to stupidity and hit a cop. I commend these “racist” cops for using tact in dealing with this hothead and not giving me a beat down I probably deserved.
Whine? I don’t whine, buddy! just stating what happened. You don’t know what was said because I didn’t disclose it. In case you didn’t know it, hopping the train is akin to jaywalking, a $15 fine (it was then, anyway). The cop was way out of line asking a 16 year old, how many old ladies have you raped? because you look like a rapist. At this point, I asked him to give me my ticket and let me be on my way home. He told me to shut the f*ck up and slapped me in the face. F*ck that! I’m not taking that from anybody. Since this is a nation of law, Mr. American, He broke the law by hitting me. And I only ran because he was reaching for his gun to shoot me! I didn’t have a weapon. Then, the other cops broke the law further by beating down a defenseless teen, half their size. So, I don’t know what the F*ck you are talking about. You must be a cop or have cops in your family. Or, you must just be a Caucasian, with no perspective.
See that’s the thing. Police get a bad wrap when a select few abuse their power. I can’t put that on all police because like I said my best friend is a cop and very good one. All he wants to do is be fair but he fights the stigma that dicks like the one who slapped you put out there. Now if my boy approached you, you’d harken back to your experience although he’s not even on that level.
And you know what, I respect people in authority, including police officers. Like I said before, I still get stopped (although not as much as when I was younger). I don’t argue, or get smart. Just answer the questions and provide the documentation that they ask for. But, even though I’m more mature now, I will not allow a cop to just be disrespectful without letting them know. Then, I will defend myself if THEY take it to the next level. I’ve never attacked…anyone, really.
I know some police officers too, and one of my good friends, going back almost 20 years, is a state trooper, so I know they are not all bad people….I said on a post here in HN, a couple of months back, that I’d rather take my chances with a police officer, than a person in the street, because the odds are that the cop would be there to help, not hurt.
And you know what, I respect people in authority, including police officers. Like I said before, I still get stopped (although not as much as when I was younger). I don’t argue, or get smart. Just answer the questions and provide the documentation that they ask for. But, even though I’m more mature now, I will not allow a cop to just be disrespectful without letting them know. Then, I will defend myself if THEY take it to the next level. I’ve never attacked…anyone, really.
I know some police officers too, and one of my good friends, going back almost 20 years, is a state trooper, so I know they are not all bad people….I said on a post here in HN, a couple of months back, that I’d rather take my chances with a police officer, than a person in the street, because the odds are that the cop would be there to help, not hurt.
I am talking as a sister of two black brothers — one is a NYPD Sergeant in East NY and the other is brother who in 1995 was unjustly arrested. I will have to side with the Police on this case. That girl could have taken the citation and kept it moving. However both girls decided to ignore the law and the Police HAS TO enforce the law — whether we like the laws or not. Some of the youth today do not respect Police which was displayed by the girls disregard to STOP. The girls continued assault of that one officer and one girl even tried to get on his back to fight.
Yes some of the police do need some training on community relations and racial profiling; however this was a case of two girls openly fighting a cop.
I haven’t seen the footage and my pc at work blocks damn near everything so I’ll just give MY opinion. BUT from what I’ve read, personally I don’t agree with ever hitting a woman UNLESS she is trying to kill you or a loved one. Now with that said, the cop could have subdued her another way if he wanted to arrest her. He could have bear hugged her to the ground or even better he could have simply DID THE SMART THING and call for back up to avoid the situation that ended up happening. BUT to answer you Juan, I think race was involved no matter who says what. I strongly believe if it was a white female or even a male, he wouldn’t have even bothered with them.
Well now that you mention it, I submit the following video from a recent Detroit Lions game
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A drunken white woman, verbally abusing a black man. Security comes and she tries to get violent. She’s introduced to the ground, and the crowd cheers the cops for taking her down.
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http://www.break.com/index/detroit-lions-fan-gone-wild.html
A black man or woman can’t or never will get that far with a white person . Hell we get beat down just on GP by KKKops.
When I see a video like this I can’t help but to think “Am I the only person who’s had the TALK about being Black and how to deal with the police?” I’m reading through the comments and it’s nice to read different points of view but am I the only person who was told to shut the f#ck up and say Yes Sir and No Ma’am to the cops. Am I the only person who was taught to always stay calm and composed because as a Black Man I will appear to be “aggressive” even when I’m not. Seriously, I’m the first to say that Race relations are better but there are some basic ground rules that still apply especially with the police. Forget about Race for a second, ANYONE who’s that aggressive with the police needs to get a beat down in my book. It is WRONG to hit a woman in the face but she still needed to be subdued he just went about it in the wrong way. This is an example of a cop that did the right thing but in the wrong way. I understand the argument about the bullsh#t charge of jaywalking but the rules still apply. When the police talks you shut the f#ck up and hope that you get a break.
Very fair assessment. I think we all have had that talk and if we haven’t we should with our children.
Cant help but to think back to Chris Rock’s skit “How not to get your @$$ beat by the police” on this one. In true Chris Rock style, its funny because its so true!
These kids could’ve used the advice in the skit….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
I’m going with the cop on this one. She had no business getting involved. And the chick in the black made it worse than what it could have been. She had no respect for the officer. STOP DEFENDING THESE LOUD MOUTH F THE POLICE MF’S. All she had to do was calm down and take the citaion. AND I’M A BLACK MAN! Cops have it rough. You don’t respect them but call them when yo ass need some help.
OK, let’s break this down…A cop trying to issue this child a citation for jaywalking…Obviously jaywalking is illegal for a reason so point 1, she was breaking the law…She should have sat back, shut up, and took the citation and been on her way…This whol ething could have been avoided…But no, she had to get mouthy and be disrespectful…And then her friend had to jump and she got punched…Looks to me like he was defending himself and reacted…Anyone of us would have reacted the same way when faced with, not 1 but 2 biligerant teenagers coming at you yelling, screaming, and cursing…So I side with the cop on this…Honestly, he showed serious restraint because he could have took out his club and whaled on all of them…No matter how minor the action, it was illegal…I was taught to respect the law no matter what…I have been profiled, arrested, pulled over for no reasons either…I don’t like, I get pissed, but I keep my mouth shut and be respectful and the situation is over…Now this cop is going to get his name dragged though the mud, his family is going to be harrased and he could possibly get fired for just doing his job…This is a stupid situation that he is going to have to deal with…I just hope Al and Jesse stay away b/c the girls were in the wrong…
The cop was absolutely right in fact he should have maced her and slammed her on the ground instead of trying to be nice and playing “pity pat.” He was by himself with a lot of people around him with no sign of backup. He could have easily been attacked from behind. If you notice the guy in the teal colored shirt was tell the girl in the pink to “Stop what are you doing?” She push him away and then proceeded to push the cop and try to grab him…..Are you kidding me?!?!? She deserved ever bit of that punch and should have been arrested for obstruction of governmental association, and assault on a police officer. You guys have to understand a summons is “in lue of arrest.” Meaning anything you are summonsed for, you could be put through the system instead of being summonsed(no matter how petty). Its pretty much at the officers discretion. In NYC jay walking is a $1 summons you think im gonna run off my mouth to a cop, refused to give my id and try to walk away from him and then fight him for that……hell no!!! USE YOUR HEAD PEOPLE!!! this had nothing to do with race, she was given a lawful order to do something she refused to comply so she was made to comply!!
All I’m saying is thank God thats all that happened. That whole situation could have ended a lot different with someone really hurt or dead. Baby girl must didn’t know any better because that was plain stupid grabbing on the Cop. Hell, cats been shot 19 times for reaching for a wallet. This could have been much worse.
That shit was funny thought, lmao!!!
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