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Thursday, January 17, 2008 | 11:48am
Fat Joe Says He Can Say “Nigga” And You Can’t Stop Him
So how does Fat Joe get a pass on saying “Nigga”?
I caught this one over at Nah Right and it had me thinking. This is a line from Fat Joe’s “Fugitive” off of his Elephant Room album…
“Nigga, bitch, hoe/some chicks is bitches, some chicks is hoes…Now who gonna tell me I can’t say nigga?”
No one. No one in the hip hop community will likely step forward and say they have a problem with a Latino using the word “nigga” so freely. So why does a non-black get a pass on such a controversial word? Is it because of the fact that he grew up in the Bronx? Is that enough?
Personally I’ve always had a bit of an issue with that. Black people themselves probably should not be using the word “Nigga”. It is derived from the word “Nigger” which has been used to disrespect black people for hundreds of years. One could at least make the argument that black people are taking ownership of a word that has been used against them for so long. So how does that open the door for other races to throw around the word too? In my opinion it doesn’t.
Eminem has always been respectful enough not to use any form of the “N Word” though he probably could get away with it. And in return I respect him more. So in regards to Fat Joe, he can be my boy but he’ll never be my nigga.
What do you guys think? am I tripping on this one? Should everyone but white people be allowed to say the word? Or maybe everyone including white people. You tell me. But let’s not get into the back and forth of whether “nigga” and “nigger” are the same word. That’s like saying “Gangster” and “Gangsta” are different or “Brotha” and “Brother”. It’s a different way of saying the same word. So let’s not go there on this one.
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Thats a touchy subjuct Mike. I’ve alway felt alittle odd hering it from someone who is not black. And i agree it probably shouldn’t be used at all. But i belive in some areas of the country latinos and black grew up so close to each other, that they figure the word could be used without any problems. Not saying its right, just noticing the trend.
nigger
i would like to shake the hand of the white man who came up with the word nigger. does anybody know where i can find him?
Man, why be racist? Fuck this racism
YOU DUMB AZ HES LIGHT SKIN NIGGA HE CAN SAY WORD NIGGA
Fuck you nigger, he isn’t black, he’s a spick. Dumb nigger.
The word was in older dictionaries and meant something entirely different than what’s in their these days. It used to say, because I have an old dictionary I got in a garage sale, it used to say nigger: a filthy, dirty person. There is no reference to black people in here. People just called any dirty person a nigger, even some white people were called niggers. It’s just that more black people back then, like the Irish, were considered dirty. It was only in the last 30 years or so that they changed the meaning to be a word refered to African Americans. The person who put that in there is more racist than anyone!
actually nigger meant ignorant muther fucker about 300 years ago… the dictionary must be wrong
well about 2400 years ago the word negro was used to describe anything or anyone who was dark or “black” this went for africans that the romans used as slaves or for the arabic people used as slaves but just as commonly was used as a work for an object like a vase. the word negro is found as derivativs in several languages like french italian and spanish and is used to describe objects not people.
you ignorant prick…
lets see you say that to a “nigger’s” face
WTF, How many of you people, yes I said you people, don’t get all butt hurt, are actually BLACK. Black people flipped a negative word and turned it into something white people can’t say, but it’s still sometimes used in a negative way. “Sorry ass nigga!” It’s only used in a positive way sometimes, “That’s my nigga.” How come you can say just about anything on TV now a days, but when NIGGA comes up everbody gets all roudy? I think it’s because “white people can’t say it”. I put that in quotes cause a black would make an exception for that white boy that “acts black”, I’ve seen it. And that’s another thing WTF is “acting Black”?
word ‘nigger’ comes from latin word ‘niger’ meaning simply ‘black’. been around for many centuries. imo if its supposedly offensive to blacks they should be the first to stop using it otherwise its hipocrisy and as long as they use it anybody can
latinos need to stop acting black//so any latinos cant say nigga//latinos can say SPICK BUT BOT NIGGA U FU** RETARDS
yo my nigga why u trippin my nigga! im puertorican my nigga! we all say my niggan miami my nigga!!
wow do u douchbags even no what spik means? i didnt think so . its good for you that the internet is intangeble because you say things way to stupid for you to be alive in the real world. i am not black but i find it to be stupid that black people use the term so freely. also im latino and my black freinds arnt allright with me saying it. but i seems like they are throwing racisim into the world by useing a term that if anyone besides them uses it that person gets ridiculed like some 1900s kkk member. not eveyone is out to get black people. when i here someone call me a spik i shrug it off. Take the racist part away and the racist have nothing left.
I completely agree. once you take away the N word and stop using it, everyone else will. White people used this word to insult black slaves so why would you want to use it?and when i mean white i mean WASPs mainly british or french people bc what many black people dont understand is that not all white people where in america during slavery and were responsible for it. my ancestors are from italy and didnt come to this country until the early 1900s and were excommunicated by the white community for being “too dark”. so they werent excepted by anyone just as Obama pointed out on his trip to italy.
anyway back to the point. take away peoples ideals that they are different from one another and racism in general will stop. I think Tupac said it best “We gotta start making changes/gotta see me as a brother instead of 2 distant strangers”
Only th dumb black people don’t understand that, but look at it this way, far enough down the line, I’m sure that “white person” getting beat up for saying NIGGA, has a blackk family member somewhere down the line. LOL I’m not gon lie and say I don’t use the word NIGGA, cause I do, but so what, I don’t sat is to my other raced friends like it’s ok or if there is a bunch of different races together because it’s disrespectful I feel. Why should other races get mad if they can’t say one word, but then again, why should we get mad if they do say it? I guess because it just sounds racist when they do IDK, someone help me out.
they are millions of latinos that are black and/or have african history. their ancestors came off of the same slave ships. Latino is NOT a race. its a culture. Black, native, white
Spick, am TOTALLY with u on this one, chaser u clown, i’m quarter black (have afro hair, slight skin tint, and sum inhereted features) and I have more right to say ‘nigger’ than you, or these latinos EVER will! period. simply because people look @ me, im as dark as this fat joe guy (maybe darker) but they see me with my afro hair and they place me in the black bracket, I been called that word a few times, have you? besides your clown possy?
samething happened when J LO said it
Rekzai, I do remember them making a deal out of J Lo saying it. I believe they blamed it on the fact that Ja Rule wrote the lyrics for her.
i am black, 39, church going, try to live right, live in the south, work, own a house and car, and by the grace of GOD reared my child without welfare, but in a rapper or regular black man’s eyes, that is how women are perceived…. period. sad, but true. we black women went from being queens to bitches & hoes. fat joe is wrong. there is something that can be done; people can stop buying his…. music furthermore, if you want to take this to a totally different level, this is racist towards dark- skinned blacks, which would go back to slavery when the light- skinned house slaves used to insult the darker field workers.
I don’t know why it’s such a big deal on the color of skin! Who the hell cares about the color of somebody’s skin. White people really don’t care about that like blacks think they do. White people judge each other on character and what’s inside the soul and personality and that they can tell when it’s genuine and not copied off of someone else. White people hate copy-cats. They hate ugly actions and they hate hate.
thats a fuckin lie you need to meet some whie peope then….you have to be in the situation of a black person to understand
People in general are more comfortable with inclusions, if the balds were slaves and the others not, then no metter if he’s black or white, just if you have hair or not. what’s metters is some signs that shows who you are.
now there’s no much about your colour, it’s more about if you have armani suits or old training suits.
but still, the N word can be insult if it came out of white mouth
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Since mention was made of the topic of the
‘house’ and the ‘field’ slave — I just wanted
to note that this false concept that so many
people have — that the lighter-complexioned
chattel slaves “had it easier” or “thought they
were better” than the darker-complexioned
slaves -– and / or largely “relaxed in the big
house” while the darker-complexioned slaves
“suffered in the fields” — is very much (just
like the infamous ‘Willie Lynch Letter’ Hoax)
all VERY MUCH AN URBAN MYTH (and,
is one which, in nearly every way that’s
possible, completely defies the
true historical recorded account).
The historical record shows that
those enslaved people who were of a
lighter-complexion (i.e. mulatto-lineage)
and that were found on the continental
United States during the antebellum
(chattel-slavery) era were actually treated
MUCH WORSE than were those enslaved
people who were of a darker-complexion.
In fact, the record shows that most
of the White people (especially the
White women) tended to look upon the
lighter-complexioned slaves as being
mere ‘mongrels of miscegenation’(resulting
largely from the rapes caused by the
plantation ‘Overseers’); in their disgust
at the sight of these slaves — insisted that
they be “banished to the fields”; and also
then purposefully reserved most of the ‘big
house’ positions (ex. mammy, cook, driver,
etc.) for the darker-complexioned slaves —
who most of the White people had perceived
as being “more loyal, more docile, less
competitive, etc.”, and, even more important,
they were also of a skin tone which could
never cause them to be seen as being any
part-’white’ (and even worse, perceived as
“possibly” also being “a member of the family”
–as it were– of a given plantation ‘Owner’).
And this maltreatment was generally even much
more so the case if the lighter-complexioned
enslaved person was even remotely ’suspected’
(by, say, a wife, sister or daughter — who ran
“the big house”, while a ‘male’ family member
ran “the plantation”)of possibly being the
offspring of a given plantation ‘Owner’
(or his son, or father, or brother,
or any other male found in the
plantation ‘Owners’ White family).
In addition, the few lighter-complexioned
enslaved people that were actually
permitted to do any work in the “big house”
were (as a punishment for having the lowly
status of “mongrel” and in order to make sure
that they did not become “too uppity”) kept
under a much more severe work supervision
(by boththe White women who ran the
plantation household and also by the
darker-complexioned enslaved people who
had been placed over the lighter-complexioned enslaved people and given various “rewards”
in an exchange for the promise to ‘keep
an eye on’ them) than were most of the
(more trusted and seemingly endeared)
darker-complexioned enslaved people.
Books by Deborah Gray White; Paula Giddings;
bell hooks; J. California Cooper; William
Wells Brown; etc. expose the truth
about the urban-myth and show that
the lighter-complexioned enslaved people
received NO special treatment and were,
instead (due to being seen as mere
“mongrels of miscegenation”) usually
treated much worse than were most
darker-complexioned enslaved people.
The hatred, fear and mistrust that many of
the antebellum and post-antebellum era White
southerners felt toward the people who were
both of a light-complexion (mulatto-lineage)
and were also chattel-slaves, is very strongly
presented in the ‘D.W. Griffith’ racist film
‘Birth of a Nation’– where pretty much
all the trouble, tragedy and dangers found
experienced by White southern families in
the film is falsely presented as being
caused by “uppity” Mulattoes who ‘needed to
be taught “their place” among White people’.
(i.e. they “needed” to be beaten, raped, lynched,
etc. by the “proud” White people who had been
reared to make it clear that they felt
“no connection” to any non-White person).
Anyone who would like any additional
information on this topic can feel
free to contact me directly.
Hope this information is helpful
& that everyone has a great day.
– AP (soaptalk@hotmail.com)
Related Links:
http://boards.mulatto.org/post/show_single_post?pid=34070161&postcount;=13
http://boards.mulatto.org/post/show_single_post?pid=34070414&postcount;=14
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I feel that a lot. I am a 20 year old black women and I get knocked all the time by people in a playful way that I speak like a white person, whatever that means. I just say it’s ok because when I go for a job interview, I don’t have to pretend. It’s just the way you handle racism that makes it go from just words to harmful action.
i feel you ms. Hancock. shouldn’t be said but everybody thinks its cool. I love all my people yellow to coffee black
this is a never ending story. i am both latino && black i grew up around the wrd being raised as if it was just a term of “friend” or “guy” or sumthin in that matter not in a disrespectful way. honestly i have used the wrd toward friendz not because im ignorant to the meaning, not because i thought it was cool it jus happend to be a wrd thrown around growning up learning && hearing it in urban or “ghetto” neighborhoods jus like abc’s in school. i was taught itz only considered disrespectful when a white person say’s it at all. even rapper eminem isnt dumb enuff to say the wrd in his songs && has got respect from blacks, i a sure you a black person buy’s his album’s with out hearing him say nigga every other wrd, i dont really no why a white person wud want to say it. i’ve been on ton’s of sites where they ask if it’s ok for other cultures to use it, i believe itz a matter of if your ok with it or not you guy’s say it shudnt be used at all.. ok let’s get real no one is gunna stop sayin the wrd anytime soon freedom of speech; im not here to promote it or demote it but of course this matter is never going to be agreed upon. i dont want to read sumthin i already no, acknowledge me on the HUGE question; why can fat joe say it? or latinos at all for that matter. he has been in the hip hop game for some time now, has respect in the black communities. BLACKS more than likely buy his album, the wrd HAS been used by latino’s toward a black person or another latino everday believe it or not, not so much in a negative way tho. a great example is on a episode of carlos mencia he went around asking ppl about the difference on the wrdz [nigger, nigga]&& rapper method man appeared on it [itz still on youtube look it up "the difference between nigger and nigga"], carlos asked him can a hispanic say the wrd he replied “of course, they just as black as we are” clearly having no problem with it. so what does that actually mean?? if your a black person who accepts a latino to be “your nigga” can you explain why? it cant be because they listen to the same rapper as you because an asian does too but isnt accepted to say the wrd toward you. the question here shudnt be HOW DOES FAT JOE GET A PASS ..it shud be WHY? no one wants to kill fat joe for saying it cuz its accepted who can tell me why && that’s what i want to no
&& by the way sorry for my typin skills i no its ridiculous lol
I understand that some people are “just used to saying it” but at some point they need to look at themselves and those they are talking to and say “should this be coming out of my mouth”. Just because you can get away with something doesn’t mean you should do it.
It’s all a matter of WHO you hang out with.
I been asking the same question. I am currently writing a college senior essay on Latinos using the n-word and why JLO got blasted for saying it but rappers like Big Pun and Fat Joe get a “pass.” If y’all have any thoughts I’d be much obliged, peace.
With J.LO, I think she caught all that heat because white mainstream America watches her where as Fat Joe isn’t really paid attention to outside of hip hop.
Also with J Lo, I think America expects her to act in that white mainstream way. She dosn’t really flaunt her Latina roots and is even willing to play a white woman in a movie (Wedding Planner). She pretty much attempts to blend in most of the time and does a pretty good job. I just don’t think most people look at her and think “Puerto Rican”. So when she goes and says the “n Word” for most people its just like it came out of a white person’s mouth.
…Not that it should make a difference.
It’s because she’s a woman.
Look, something’s wrong. I used to listen and even admire hip-hop culture back in high school, but not anymore.
This current hip-hop culture is materialistic, misogynistic, hypocritical, shady and immature. Therefore, I’m losing respect for it more and more everyday.
Prison. Gangs. Sex. Drugs. Violence. Criminal activity.
It’s a shame.
The saddest part is that much of the youth, particularly blacks, grow up with nothing else. This is all they’re exposed to, and thus they’re prone to act and live this lifestyle.
It’s a shame.
I find it extremely ridiculous for people to make an excuse differentiating the words “nigger” from “nigga”. Dialect anyone?
Where are their role models? Their parents?
Black grow up listening to it because either they just grew up with it around or they can actually relate to it. I grew up listening to ALL types of music and continue to listen to ALL types of music. OPINION is key, we can’t let OPINION get the best of us. people get angry when someone says what they think, why? IDK UNDERSTANDING is another key UNDERSTAND, and everything works out.
I am a 16 year old junior in high school and im doin a project on the word nigger or nigga? personally i do use the word to identify my friends ex “whas good my nigga, or nigga please” when i use the word i dont even realize i say it. I dont get offended when black,hispanics,whites,chinese,blue purple or wateva call me a nigga. Personally i think we should say the word to get rid of its racial meaning. Make the word mean somthin tottaly different,because if people keep from saying “oh nigger was what slaves were called ect…” then that means it’ll continue to be a negative word… but from people changing it to be a whole different meaning means the word wouldnt be as bad… of course its not bad for people to know the history behind it but at the same time its nothing wrong wit change the meaning as to friend or sunthin…
man, if black people who take offense to other races using the “N” word only knew how much they get used I have a feeling the country would riot. I know of cowboys riding around in there jacked up trucks listening to country music who call all there friends the n word. I know executives in companies who call there friends the n word. I know very religious people who use the word on a regular basis. Black people are not the only ones who use the word as a means of describing or saluting a friend or enemy. Since the music idustries exaltation of these words a lot of everyday people have started using the words in there everyday lives. Although black people are comfortable with they themselves using a word that was and is derogatory term they are not willing to let other people use it. So what I think latino rappers or even the other races are saying is, you can not stop us from using a word that you yourselves use and there is nothing you can do about it. Especailly in a country where the 1st amendment is upheld. Sadly the major contributers to this word gaining the infamy that it currently holds are not racist, southern, backwoods, ex-slave owners (which have not existed in 200 years) its the people who hated the word to begin with……
yea man i think no one outside the black race should say it end of stoy no ricans indians whatever
if there was a spanish word for wigger, thats what id call fat joe. i hate him and hes fake and he cant spit. p.s. im a white boy aka cracka or cracker lol
I know this post is a little old but here it is…
First of all let me start with a little history lesson. Many Puerto Ricans (Taino Indians) were raped, enslaved and murdered when the Spaniards came over the Islands. There were Africans brought over for labor that were sold to the Spaniards by Africans to fund their own tribe wars going on in their regions. So right now many Puerto Ricans have the African gene due to slaves, indians and Spaniards mixing it up to include many other European folks coming over the Islands later on. So where am I going with this? Well in my opinion just like many black people would say we (Puerto Ricans) are just as black as African Americans are so this plays a big part as to why many Puerto Ricans get away with the word. I grew up around blacks damn near all my life being from Newark, NJ but I don’t use the word. In my opinion is if a black person can use it then anyone else should be able to use it. It’s like saying don’t shit on my lawn because it makes the area stink yet you decide to take massive shits on the lawn yourself. “Dumb ass Nigas!” LoL
firsty nigga is a term used by mainly african americans on a regualar basis its not an insult within this commiunity but is taken as an insult coming from any other race
i personally will not accept any oher race refering to themselves or anyone black as a nigga but i find it amusing when people from other races do and its also flattering that so many people especially puerto ricans try so hard to be a nigga
black people being the positve people that we are have managed to completly flip the meaninig of the word nigger from being something that was used to be called out at are great grandaddy’s to degrade them and insult but has now become something that everyone now is tring to be
so back to the point should fat joe be able to use the word nigga NO! 1 HE AINT NO NIGGA 2 HE WILL NEVA BE NO NIGGA AND 3 JUST CUZ HE GREW POOR AND HIS MAMA WAS PROBALLY A HOE DNT GIVE HIM NO RITE TO SAY NIGGA
and to the last person who commented rico keep tellin yourself that u r a nigga and keep tannin yourself u might just be able to pull off mixed race nd stop trying to be like us “dumb ass niggas”
Man it comments like this that hold us back.DRessing a certain way or talking a certain way shouldn’t be a means of identifying someone’s race.I’m latino and I hang aroung anyone regardless of color including African Americans. Some of my latin friends use the word “Nigga” to refer to anyone, it doesn’t matter if their black. I think as soon as we can get past this whole certain words are off limit to people we can move forward.
fuck u fat joe if you aint black dont use it and u suck at rapping be like eminem dont use the word at all and get out of the rapping business for good!
NOT FUCK FAT JOE FUCK U BITCH AZ FAT JOE IS LIGHT SKIN NIGGA SO SHUT UP FUCK UP !
it kills me how blacks don,t want anyone else using this word but its okay to degrade ourselves the word was created in a deroggatory term centuries ago and do your research latinos are brothers in race and were slaves just like us and have african blood runnig through their veins just us do your research if you don,t anybody using the stop using it yourself.
Black should stop sharing their music with Hispanics like Fat Joe{whose a weak rapper} and DJ Khaled {WHO SCREAMS}along with others.Black is so respectful to they’re culture,and you don’t hear them using disrepectful towards them and justifying like Fat Joe who find it ok to use the N-word,who I consider a walking fridge.I blame the artist for doing it and allow others to diss us,like Fat Joe booty bleeding fat ass.
I am a 21 year old black male from North Carolina and I attend N.C. State University. I am as far from racist as a person gets. I am actually very interested in other cultures which has inspired me to study Spanish and Chinese in school, but I will never allow a person around me that is not black to say the word nigga. I am also a rapper and producer, and I wrote a song that will answer any question or topic that people may have about the word nigga. Take some time to listen to my song; afterwords, you shouldn’t have anymore questions and If you do feel free to ask. The link to my song is posted below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um6hL2OoxjE
Nigger wasn’t only used for blacks. it was used for non-whites. White people called even chinese people nigger. Why is it matter who says it if they’re not racist?
if anyone should say it should be african americans and dominicans thats my take. if you on the east coast or miami you would know why.. dominican is taino indian mixed with african. a mixed race just like african american. black people have a lot of white blood from white men raping their women. just like dominicans and every other spanish country. and black people dont confuse dominican and puerto rican with mexican, cause i know right away when someone mentions latino ppl think mexican cause their the majority of latinos.if you from the south or the west you dont understand the relationship between black and dominican or puerto rican. go to the bronx harlem any hood theres blacks and dominicans. dominicans have the lowest poverty rate (look it up) so we are right next to blacks are whole life. like gary shefeild said were just the spanish speaking blacks haha.btw to the white ppl who are just mad that dominicans and ricans get a pass and you cant say it stop posting we can’t use it. cause weve been using it for years and no ones said anything so holla.
OK, im a white kid from lexington ky. i live in lexington ghetto. but straite to the point here. i am use to hearing nigga so much. it is baseicly like a term to show friendship. i have used that word freely with the people who grew up here and they havent gotten a proble with it as long as i dont mean no disrespect tward them. the way i see it is if u truely mean no harm and know ur people through n through, then this can be used positive. no matter what race u are. i was involved in many of a fight where this word was used tward me negativly, also as the word cracker and honkey, those 3 words are words of hurt but from the right light can be words of change and respect. its not what u say but how u mean what u say.
those must be clowns in your hood then daddy, its a no go I don’t care what u think
NIGGA is just a fuckin word. people are complaining about racism this shit pisses me off.
words have meaning though don’t they idiot
words only have meaning if you give them meaning. If the word was in mainstream usage that is the only way it would loose its stigma. POINT BLANK
We ALL have a stigma attached to it
First off, I half black half japanese. I think it’s really ridiculous that blacks can use the word Nigga but other people can’t. If everyone used it just as they do it would lose the stigma.
Personally I wish the blacks would stop wining about shit. No one in my family was a slave owner in the U.S and I don’t know ANYONE that had a family member that was even here when people owned slaves. that’s the beauty of america. we come from all over the world.
There have been so many races that came over here and really went through a lot. The chinese when they came over were basically hated so much that they made their own place, china town. But ya know what? They worked hard, got educated etc. That’s what everyone has done that’s came to America.
Blacks need to stop blaming everyone for their problems and start doing things to change things. Honestly, the blacks should thank the lord every day that they were brought over to the richest country in the world on slave boats. If not they’d being dying in some ditch of Aids in africa like so many of them are. Amen.
sorry. I didn’t mention I am Ethiopian black.
I dunno. I think everyone should be allowed to use it. It doesn’t make any sense to say only blacks can use it.
I’m Dark Skin Mexican with Stright Hair, and when I was
on elementary, people used to called PRIETO (sun nigger
on english) or indian (becuase in South Mexico there
still some native mexican people with old costums and
they r dark skin, and they considered ignorant people who
can’t stand up for themselves) and I really got all upset,
needin’ to whooping some asses and get into trouble. But
when hip hop came out I felt the I should be proud not
only of my color skin also but who am I. The
point is… that if a african-american, african-hispanic,
african-asian, african-european,etc… I wouldn’t call
him or her like that, becuase I felt like shit when
somebody called my like that. Even if fat Joe is hood,
doesn’t give him the right to say that N word in his
songs, but is NY or the World doesn’t have a problem,
well… let him be. Maybe he’ll run up into somebody
that might not like that and he will be into some
deep shit.
The n word is a very controversial subject.i am biracial african mexican cuban and i have white reletives that are not directly related to me and i was raised in a neighbourhood with blacks,latinos and asians.I didnt had a problem saing the word.although i am a close friend with an asian he respects our ethinicy and never called one of us nigga even if we said we didnt mind because he whould be saing with the meaning friend.But what makes me wonder is that i know a guy that his grandfather was of african descendent and he is at the skin colour white and he sais the word like no problem and no one cand judge him couse he has african descendent.i myself got the latino colour from my mother rather than black i am just a little black than fat joe is,anyway what do u think about this guy that i was telling about?
This shit is stupid. It’s okay for a black person to call a white person cracker or honkey or even white boy but if a white person calls a black nigga or even black boy then they are racist and they get they’re ass kicked
I’m white and puertorican but im light skinned, I can see why blacks get upset when white people use that word because white people were slave owners. It’s okay for other races to use that word in my community but whites can’t, its hilarious. I’ve looked at this issue all my life and if a black person wants to beat my ass for sayin a word then I would beat a black persons ass for sayin honkey or cracker. It’s only fair know wat im sayin, I’m not racist but racist black people will get their ass beat around me for the same reason racist white people would get their ass beat around blacks
The only whites who get their asses kicked are pussies
When black people stop using this bad word maybe it can stop and when young blacks let other races of people say Nigga in front of them and have no problem with,that’s right you have to blame our people for letting it happen.Fat Joe is weak as a person and he need to get with Jenny Craig with his fat out of shape but.
Actuallly if you would look down the line of latinos, you will find African descendants are in their blood line, so technically latinos, whether they are puerto rican, dominican, cuban or from the carribean you will find that majority of them are of african and spanish descent. They are black technically…Therefore I see no real problem with a latino using the “N” word. Their great great grandmothers and great great grandfathers (anscestors) were slaves too, and im pretty sure they were not spared the “N” word either. I’ve lived in a latino/ mixed race urban community and latinos call themselves the “N” word…and knowing that we all come from one place..africa, makes it ok with me.
i don’t really know the history between latinos and blacks but this topic is very intresting i always seem to fall into an arguements with friends and family whether white people should be free to use the “N” word…. if a black person s uses the word to another and it is accepted why can’t it be right for white to use it. you shouldn’t have to be a certain colour to say a certain word … personally i get very offened if any one uses word “Nigga” to reffer to me, it doesn’t matter what their skin colour is. It is a very disrespecting term to use when reffering to an indvidual… there if us black people are using “it” to call each other… it might seem right for others to use it so lets not use that term because we all humans black person is others “nigga”
Abolish the N. Word Brothas & Sistas, Time 4 Peace & Unity 4eva & Alwayz. Fatty Fake Joke Is Finished, Hes Racist & Evil 2 Tha Core.
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Hey what the wrong with y’all, people?
I’m damn sure that y’all grown!
why do we care about this word “nigga”?
huh?
it’s nothin’ but word
be sure …
that issue make us start hatin’ each other!
am I wrong?
so, what the hell its meaning?
I always say…
hey nigga, what’s up?
how is it goin’ nigga?
ey my nigga?
it mean nothin’ but as a friend or dude or something
so why white people can’t say it? huh?
personally, I don’t mind if whites say it
let’s forget about the history and start a new page that clear of violence or hating
we ain’t gonna live forever!
we gonna die someday, right?
so, please people stop this damn racism!
PEACE UP!
Who cares what name someone calls you?? So what if I decide to call you a “doodoo” or a “poopoo”? If I want to say nigger, I’m going to say it. I don’t care. I’d be exercising my right to free speech if I said it. Now I’m going to start saying it, and the first person who doesn’t like it can come and try to do something about it because I also will exercise my right to protect myself! Nigger!
Whats okey for some people might not be okey for others. Some blacks might be okey if their non black friends says it but if just some white guy rolls up on them and go like “Whats up my nigga?” the reaction might be “Who the fuck are you to call me nigga white boy?” Some might be okey when non white people says it because in the beginning it was white people who used racial slurs or racial names, often in a derogatory manner. Back then, because of the white worlds dominiance in large parts of the world, colored people was viewd as inferior to white people. A lot of blacks might feel okey well, our ancestors was slaves, so was yours, white people took you as slaves as well, the exploited your country, well shit we´re in the same boat. A feeling of brotherhood or fellowship might arrive and the wouldent take offence when maybe a latino would use the world.
But then some might feel that its a 100% black thing, it was first used against us, to degrate us, we was the ones hurt by it so now when we use it amongst ourselfs everybody wants to use it. Because rap has become mainstream. I bet if there was no rap NO whites at all would want to walk around using the word nigga. But due to hip hop, who sprung out of black coulture, people are influensed by the “black” or “black ghetto” slang, the word nigga being one of them. So now everybody wants to use it. I say its mostly because of rap going mainstream that whites wants to use the word nigga.
But yet again, some blacks feel you have to be black to use it. They are not okey with a latino using it who sometimes is almost as dark as they are. But okey when a guy who is one quarter black rest white who basicly just have some different features from other whites and has more of a afro hair uses the word nigga, he has black blood.
To others its just a word that has become almost “public properdy” due to all the use of it in media, music, movies etc. Everybody uses it so I´ll use it as well, it sounds nice and a bit cool. I want to be down so I say niggah eventhough my name Is Martin McCracker a snow white boy from the burbs..
I would say that nobody can stop anybody from saying anything, just that people around you might take offence. And if you´re not black then who are you to say its okey for everybody to use it. I´ll leave it up to the jews them selfs to make holocaust jokes, and even if they did I would think a shit load of times before I made em. Get my point? hehe
I believe the ‘N’ word is the most silly thing around in the human language, it is just that black people are very touchy about their race, they dont know but they are extremly racist, ive watch many black comedians, chris rock, eddie murphy, all who mock white people, if a white man done simular there would be an up roar, there is the B.E.T(black entertainment telvision) if there was a W.E.T everyone would thin it is related to the KKK. the fact that the ‘N’ word is actually feared by white people because of the possible repercusions, it is in itself racist towards white people. i think that fat Joe should be able to use it, i think everyone should be able to, it is a word created by vibrations in our vocal cords, but, it should not be used to exclued a certain type of person, we shouldnt say it just at black people and black people shouldnt as well, the term can be changed in what is meant behind it.e.g. jackie chan in rush hour uses it several times, but it is funny, the word nigger is not racist unless the user means it to be, i am white and i am using the word nigger in a constructive disscusion i wouldnt call my self a racist because of it.
waa waa waa all u black people needa stop pullling the racism card all the time, we have a black president you whiney ass bitches…not like any of you even KNEW your ancestors that were affected by slavery in the first place.
far as i see it its just another excuse to get you through life..
and guess what, it wasnt me or any other white person alive today that did that shit, so stop blaming the white man…
peace.
is it me or islinsey lohan getting ugly, now that a serious subject.
It is remarkable how such an offensive word, according to the black community, is used like its cool by the same people claiming to be offended by it. This is known as a double standard. Imagine white people walking around yelling “what up craka”! Even better, the word cracker or honkey stated 50 times in a rock song. Its stupid. The very people who bitch about being called the n word, and want to get all puffed up like a rooster and fight are too stupid to not say the very word that makes them OOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFEEEEENNNNDDDDEEEEDD. I know a 84 year old African American man who would slap the *%^$ out of another black for saying the n word. That man has a right to be offended he went through times you all could not even comprehend. Stop being two faced. If you dont like the word, dont say it. If you say it, dont get mad if someone who dont have the same shade as you says it. Your not entitled to the word idiots.
ye ye thats great greg but wat about linsey lohan, shes getting fucking fat.
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THERE NIGGAS YOU HAPPY???
there is no excuse for this words use.
Remember that their where spanish, and portugese slave owners. Thus in turn means that some latinos are descendents of slave owners. Just as some black people are, I appreciate, and just as some white people are. If its OK for Latinos such as Fat Joe to say it because they have been treated badly by the united states, then its OK for the people of irish, polish, german, french, dutch, russian, scottish, welsh, english, italian, hungarian, vietnamese, korean, jewish, arabic, spanish, belgian, native american, and japanese descent to say it.
we’re all hustling for a better standard of living for ourselves and the rest of the world. You don’t hear the Irish going round calling each other mickeys, the whites going round calling each other crackers, the chinese going round calling each other chinks, the mexicans calling eachother wetbacks? why is it afro americans do so? If the word is going to be used constantly in hiphop, then this is merely a product of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVmosJo-Bbg
The use of the word nigger unsettles me regardless of the colour of the mouth that speaks it. I’m mixed race, and for a long time was pretty much the blackest kid in my town (surprising because I am not black). One day when I was walking home from school a man shouted nigger at me out of his car, it made me sick, there is just no defence to something like that.
I don’t want white people saying it, and by the same token I don’t want anyone saying it.
Were Im from latinos and blacks say nigga all the time. puertoricans,cubans,dominicans, use it. we all cool. latinos and blacks son! we all minorities
I’m half black cos’ my dad was black but my skin is white and all my black friends don’t mind if i say nigger.
Though i’ve barely even used the word and despite having permission from my friends, i still wonder if it’s really ok for me to use the word just cos’ i’ve got some black in me.
What do you guys think.
Listen up motha fuKKKaz.
I am white as a motha fuKKKin sheet, and I gonna say nigga as much as I want N u ain’t gon’ stizzop me, biatches.
fuKKK dat.
how ’bout us white slavez, eh? eva thought ’bout that b4 u go sayin’ NIGGA iz bad?
fuKKK u NIGGA
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just a word nigga, just a word.
word up, south K-town reprezzzzzent NIGGA!
YOU DIE SLOW. ALL YOU BITH MADE FAGGOT ZOIDS FEEL SAFE TYPING SHIT FROM THE SAFETY OF YOUR OWN HOME, BUT IN FACT YOU WILL ALWAYS BE THE WEAKER RACE YOU TRICK MADE CAVE COWARD. TRUST ME YOU WILL BE THE FIRST TO GET IT WHEN THE TIME COMES
oh yeah, that nigga in da white house can stick it 2 mah diKKK
He a nigga to da core.
Im a middle class 19 year white boy from Boston.,and i use the word “nigga” every single day..i say it to my white friends, and black ones too.,if you live in an area heavily populated with races such as blacks or spanish,chances are your going to have friends that are indeed black..,in my opinion, the word “nigga” is just as common as “dude”.this doesent mean everyone in my city calls each other niggas,but a good amount of them (especially the youth)do..unless your a skinhead or dont hangout with blacks,just like any other word- it sticks to you after you hear it so many times.,but it is known that the word is not said out of hate.,It is just stuck in my vocabulary because im so used to it..
when i see one of my black friends i say “wuddup niggaa”-THEY KNOW im not saying- HEY NIGGER HOWD YOU GET THEM CHAINS OFF..
its 2009 people.slaverys long gone.
- but i definately watch what i say and how i say things ( not everyone is as tolerant to these types of things)
see you have some silly ass friends thats all. that shit wouldn’t be happening.
I really can’t understand why so many people allow themselves to continuously use this demeaning word.
do you know how latinos were created…White spanish men would take the black and indian slaves and they would rape them therefore latinos are part black and can say the “N” Word
I’m dominican and light-skinned and I say nigga. Who the fuck is gonna tell me otherwise?
My family and ancestors were slaves as well. I got every right to say nigga. Even though I don’t look black I got black ancestors.
Dominicans and Africans get that pass. Puerto Ricans don’t because alot of them are bitch niggas.
It’s just a word.
Everyone should be able to say a word.
It’s the U.s.a nigga..
Freedom of speech? Yeah.
YOU ARE TRIPPIN MY MAN. THIS IS JUST EAST COAST CULTURE AND BTW FAT JOE HAS AFRICAN BLOOD IN HIM. ALL RICANS AND DOMINCANS DO.
The only people who can say nigga is black people. WHY because it is derrived from a word that was used to put us down. Letting any other race use the word is just bringing back memories of what are ancestors had to go through. We can use nigga for the simple fact that when we use it, it is shedding light on a hateful chapter in history.
it wasnt no crackers or spanish people out dere pickin dat cotton so hop off a nigga dick before u get delt wit and that white boy claiming he can say nigga all he want go up 2 a real nigga an c if that flys
Fat joe can only say nigga because he is spanish and Spanish people can say nigga because they were close to blacks when tthey grew up in the hood.
&& i also think spanish people can say it because in spanish the color black is ” negro”
First of all, the puerto rican and black communities living in the Bronx have always been very close. Also, not all latinos are the same. Puerto Ricans in particular have a west-african element to them. (think roberto clemente, vic power, etc. all of whom ere referred to as “niggers” by white americans) Most puerto ricans are mixed, and it is highly likely that Fat Joe is too. Btw, Puerto rico had african slave labor from 1500s to late 19th century.
“In a study done on Puerto Rican women born on the island but living in New York in 2004, the ancestry proportions corresponding to the three parental populations were found to be 53.3±2.8% European, 29.1±2.3% West African, and 17.6±2.4% Native American based on autosomal ancestry informative markers. The study also showed 98% of the people sampled had European ancestry markers, 87% had African ancestry markers, 84% had Native American ancestry markers, 5% showed only African and European markers, 4% showed only Native American and European markers, 2% showed only African markers, and 2% showed only European markers”
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico
(Genetics section)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Puerto_Rico#Genetic_studies
i believe this is the actual link that you were referring to.
Well I’m Black MySelf. And I Think That Whites Should be able to Say Nigga without Blacks all getting mad. I mean..If They Say Nigger i would understand..But Still Nigger Nigga Same Thing. Who Gives a Flying Fuck Cause i dont
Oh And plus..It’s not like we came from different planets. Personally I would love when everyone can Say The N Word and no one cares x.x
He can say it. He was in D.I.T.C. with Lord Finesse, Big L, Showbiz, and AG (they’re all black). They obviously had no problem with him saying it.
I wonder how people can be racist with that word if they still love you after no homo. I don’t even mind Eminem using that word, either and I like his rapping abilities.
I don’t think any “African American” has any pace to get upset if a Puertorican, Cuban, Dominican or any other Caribbean says NIGGA, NIGGER or any other form. You forget dumb asses Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico were discovered way before the mainland now called “U.S.” so the first slaves were brought to the caribbean before the “United States” ever saw one slave. Sorry to burst your bubble but if its about slavery, we were niggers long before you. By the time the first white man set foot on American soil blacks had been enslaved with indians in the caribbean for a long time. If anything, you’re the rookie niggas, we’ve been niggas just a tad bit longer. If Fat Joe can’t say it neither can Lloyd Banks, Peter Gunz, Beatnuts …all have rican in them. Many of the eastcoast rappers have puertorican in them dumb ass and you don’t even know it. Make sure you also look up the fact that the first African American library was established in Harlem by a puertorican. Babble less …read more.
A lot of yall are being childish and need to grow up. With the 1st amendment we do have the freedom of speech meaning that anyone can say nigga/nigger as they please. But i feel like its our responsibility to be sensitive (i guess that how you would put it) to others.To those of yall that come from a diff. culture other than the African culture and aren’t white i see where you’re coming from, but if you pick up a book or when you’re taught about slavery in school they don’t teach about other culture being niggers they focus on the African culture so i guess you can’t really be upset with others lack of knowledge. And to the insensitive folks (white folks)yeah you can say history is in the past all you want, but we revisit history everyday and im not just talking about the n-word. Another thing you don’t hear anyone walking around talking about crackers this and crackers that or pecker-woods this and pecker-woods that or honky this or honky that. But like i said we all can say what we want but it’s how you say it that determines the effect of it
fat joe can say the n word he’s puerto rican yall need to get a fkin life white people just cant say that word never!!!!!!!!!!!
someone kill that NIGGER PRESIDENT already
Man im hispanic and I say the word “nigga” sometimes. I don’t however use it in any disrespectful way. I’ll be like “this my nigga rite here”. In other words “this my boy” or “my homey” sumtimes the word jus comes out. But not in a bad way. But me personally I feel most people use the word to show off, or sumhow make themselves look cool. Like wen sum says “I heard that nigga was talking shit” WTF. Ur an idiot bitch. And yu not sounding cool at all! I feel the word should be used freely jus not in any form of racism or too sound cool. Especially those dumasses who overdo the word and say it all the time. Now yu jus stupid if its like that. Even if yu black. But getting to the point, I feel Fat Joe uses the word cuz he think it makes him cool. Dumnass probably sits home telling his ghost writer “yo add the word “nigga” a few times so it makes me look cool and tough”!! Stupid bitch.
lmaoo @ fat joe even being questioned… does any1 kno dere history of hip hop not onlly are ricans niggas .. but they help create the culture of hip hop from the very begining.. so case closed.. a matter of fact ricans and dominicans have more of a right in hip hop then blacks from anywhere else cus it did start in the bx the puerto rican mecca.. rican kids were rappin and breakin wen blacks in the south and cali didnt even have a clue wat hip hop was
Look, it’s as simple as this. I’m a 30 year old black male from Philadelphia and I do feel weird about Puerto Ricans using that word. I know a Puerto Rican girl who has, Nigga’s Ain’t Shit, tattooed on her. I get frustrated from it because, if you read different forums and such, there are so many different explanations as to why they feel they have the right to say it. If the theory holds true, Blacks are the original people which means, white people are black too, right? So, does that give them the right to say it? Puerto Ricans don’t fill in the African American/Black square on a job application, do they? They are their own culture. Okay, so they may have some african descent……and Indian…..and European (scratching my head, confused). But, that’s so washed out for most of them that they are considered what they are, and that’s Puerto Rican. I can’t stand hearing DJ Khalid say, “We da’ best!!, who! Weeeee Niggaaaaaa”. OMG! That’s so annoying. Just identify with your culture and stop trying to vibe with everyone else. Whites can’t say it, Puerto Ricans can’t say it, Dominicans can’t say it, damn nobody should say it. But, we know who the word was used for. I don’t care about it’s origin. Because it’s origin means nothing. We all know the impact that word caused so, stop acting stupid like you don’t know. I don’t say spick, cracker, sloops or any other racial slur to any other culture. So, in a nut shell, my Puerto Rican friends, who ever gave you you’re Black pass was sadly mistaken. It is offensive and I can say that it is, because I am Black. My Mother is black, my Father is black, my Grandfather, Grandmother and so on and so forth. I don’t have a conglomerate of cultures inside of me to confuse my DNA. Ok, so you grew up in the hood…..SO!!! Keep your slurs amongst your ignorant dumb ass black hoodlum friends. They don’t speak for the rest, who are trying to change our culture as opposed to destroying it. As I keep writing, it’s starting to piss me off that you feel that it’s okay. Fuck Fat Joe, fuck DJ Kahlid and fuck J.Lo! I do apologize for my language but, those words seemed appropriate at the moment. Hey listen, if you have a set of at least Great Grandparents that are Black, and I mean their parents were either slaves or fresh of the ships, then I’ll give you a pass. You know what, just forget it! It’s not your culture, or your people. Just don’t say it to my face. Yeah.
I dont understand it at all…another exmaple is Gudda Gudda, hes fuckin Asian. Why can he say it and not get grilled for it ?
the worlds a fucked up place man
A lot of yall are being childish and need to grow up. With the 1st amendment we do have the freedom of speech meaning that anyone can say nigga/nigger as they please. But i feel like its our responsibility to be sensitive (i guess that how you would put it) to others.To those of yall that come from a diff. culture of than the African culture and aren’t white i see where you’re coming from, but if you pick up a book or when you’re taught about slavery in school they don’t teach about other culture being niggers they focus on the African culture so i guess you can’t really be upset with others lack of knowledge. And to the insensitive folks (white folks)yeah you can say history is in the past all you want, but we revisit history everyday and im not just talking about the n-word. Another thing you don’t hear anyone walking around talking about crackers this and crackers that or pecker-woods this and pecker-woods that or honky this or honky that. But like i said we all can say what we want but it’s how you say it that determines the effect of it
well, were im from Latinos say nigga. Blacks don’t care. Puertoricans say it all the time. Especially in New york and Miami.And the hiphop culture is Black and Latino since the 80s. The Bronx for instance. All puertorican and Black. Blacks were im from don’t have a problem with it. We all grew up in the same hood and are into the same music. Latinos can say it but i don’t think whites are accepted saying it.
and by the way the way latinos are a big part of the hiphiop culture since the 80s. Breakdancing, Graf,B boying,Rock steady crew was all latino’s.Majority of the graf and breaking culture was and still is latino. And plus we suave and dress dope. we got flavor. thats why the hotties call us papi. I notice in the south this is an issue. not up north. peace out my nigga!
ummm….so what your telling me as a white person that I cannot buy an album sung by a black man with the word nigga in it and I cant sing along…that my friend is some bullshit…taking “ownership” of the word nigga could possibly be the dumbest shit I have ever heard…now if you wanna run of at the mouth then talk about why black folks would even use that word to acknowledge one another….if you ask me a nigga is a nigga is a nigga no matter!
puerto ricans are mixed with taino, indian, african, latino, and white if you know your race mixture. same goes for the dominicans. the spanish they speak is mixed with african slave dialect. so fat joe has black in him. america is so racist that despite his ethnic mixture, they will call him white or because of his skin color. do your research on people’s culture before address topics like this… it makes yall look stupid.
The white man came to the americas causing a genocide that has yet to be matched to native americans and by the way enslaveing them also After realizing that natives were too weak for the labor and basiclly just dieing they descide to invest more in the african slave trade which is right behing the genocide caused to the natives. the white man had one goal throughout this process which is to make sure there would never be a unification of natives and africans. why you may ask because we would be able to overthrow our masters. now there was two types of slaves the african and the native but they called them encendies same shit just change the name. they also gave power to some natives and gave them slaves but they also used africans to hunt natives think buffalo soilders. now no one in america is 100% black all you have been mixed with white blood and some with native. what happen to most of the native bloods well its hard to find 100% native also most where mixed with white or black blood. the ones that stayed in the north became native americans and the blacks became black americans. in the south everyone is considered lations because we speak spanish. now this word nigga spick wtf is wrong with all yah we all the same black and brown we come from a genocide that is never told because we are not jewish we are the same unlesss u recently came here from africa then you african or if you a latino who is 100% white. all these games to separate us is the goal of the white man its called divide and conquer. us blacks and latino (blacks and native) have a common bond and thats our 100destruction of our old culture for now i a have a slave name miguel but i should have and inca name. listen when it comes to the end we can all sit and smoke a blunt drink a beer and play some rap or salsa and i bet all of us will enjoy till the white man comes stop bickering over bullshit and lets unite and get our 600 year revenge thas due to us….
wow 2 years and the comments are still coming in.
do you know that we have something called the “substansia NIGRA” in our brain?
Everybody knows a lil bit of latino. Niger,nigra – 3rd conjugation if im not wrong.
means black.
albus,alba – means white.
i don’t understand – if it is degratatory term, then why use it in the first place. black or not.
if im black and a brotha calls me nigga(which refers me as a slave to white people), imma punch him in the face.
because he eis Puerto ricans.. puerto ricans even say “nigga” in puerto rico.. puerto ricans are part black.. they from the ghetto.. just like us.. i think of puerto ricans as light skin black ppl.. Jim jones is puerto rican he says nigga.. Fabolous is Dominican he says nigga.. Juelz is too.. so what get over it..they had slavery in pr too.. thats how the blacks got there.. so leave that nigga alone ignorant white person!
Fo example: I live in Brazil and everybody FROM Brazil can say the word nigga round here… Black people don´t give a fuck if a white boy (from the same hood as you) calls you a nigga…. BUT if a white RICH boy calls you nigga and you ain´t a rich black boy… That nigga will get really mad! And another thang is: i got american black homies and i call´em nigga…
Now, we get to the point:
(i know thats strange) but i´m poor and my brother is rich (thats cuz i been raised by my mother and my millionaire father didn´t want to raise me). I have a friend that i usually call nigga and he calls me nigga too. One beatyfull day my brother said the N word to my friend (he said “negao” and that means “big nigga”)… well, my friend punched him and said ” i don´t even know you…”
I think that if you can say the N word with you homies and if youre a poor latin or black… only if ya`ll come trough the same shit…
Shiiiit…. i know most of yall ain`t gon even read this whole mothafuckin text haha
And another fact: if black people can call latins by “ese” why can´t we call em “nigga”? I ain´t sayin as a racist way, but as a friendly way, like:
Black: Yo, wassup ese. How you doin?
Latin: shiit, I ain´t very well nigga! The cops tried to beat me…..
When people use this words as racist form, theen they should get their asses kicked… But when they´re friendly talkin, shit shouldn´t get real
Sorry if i said anithing that shouldn´t, but that´s my point of view…
You niggas are all fools with the exception of that last brazilian nigga comment. He was generally the closest nigga here that explained the difference in usage.
Nigga in pop culture is a subject matter. Like;
That nigga a rat nigga.
That nigga is just THAT nigga.
That’s just some nigga I know.
Even though in each sentence you talking about a nigga; anybody in the know knows that each nigga in each sentence is a different type of nigga. Something you learn being born and raised and growing up in the ghetto around regular niggas. In each sentence; “nigga” was used in a different tone and spec of light.
People who are accepted are people who are rooted in that culture. Grew up being called different types of niggas. You know how many people call me nigga who are black growing up and in high school that was mostly filled with niggas? I’m olive skin green eyes! Fucking “sand nigga” didn’t even sound right in the ghetto. We just kept it ay-rab-nigga. YO THAT OLD AYRAB NIGGA CRAZY IN THE CORNER STORE NIGGAS TRYNA ROB FROM HIM AND THAT NIGGA CAME OUT WIT DA MACHETE AND STICK AND THEN LIKE 50 OTHER NIGGAS CAME OUT THE BACK SCREAMIN SOME SHIT IN THAT LANGUAGE THOSE NIGGAS SPEAK. Go to any crack lucie dollar dutchies and 50 cent beer grocery store in the worse ghettos in Brooklyn. 4/5 times they’re straight Yemeni… Ayrab. Take a survey over there and see how niggas call the arab niggas nigga. They usually live in the neighborhood (or building) the store is at. They live with the culture. They become accepted.
Fat Joe is a puerto rican nigga from the bronx. A spic nigga. I personally don’t like him as an artist; but he definitely gets the nigga pass and rappers like eminem who weren’t raised in that cultural atmosphere won’t- EVER.
Shit I’m high! Smoking wit some of my niggas. Nigga gotta wake up in the morning. Didn’t even reread what I wrote. And I won’t-
If you had a hard time understanding the post; you really don’t understand the essence of the word and therefore should never ever attempt to use it.
I’m glad I grew out of being a nigga. Fucked up socioeconomic indifference! Get an education. And not only through school. Teach niggas in the ghettos “how” to learn. So we could stop arguing about these stupid superficial topics.
Let me use the experience, observations, and perspectives of nearly six decades of living to inform the readers of some facts and advance some analysis, here.
1-First, So-called “African Americans” decent are really triracials to varying extents and have been so for centuries, with the European contributions to their genomes (20-25%)mostly from Great Britain, France, and other Western European nations, the African contributions(70-75%)from all over the African continent, but mostly Western Africa, and various Eastern Woodland and larger Native American tribes of the Southeast (5-10%).
2-So-called “Latinos”, at least those from the Carribean, are of very similar admixture, substituting the Spanish for the English and French, and Arawak and Tainos for the multiple tribes of the U.S.
3-Both mileu historically were built on plantation systems, cotton and tobacco in the American South, sugar cane in the carribean.
4-Please note to this point the convergence of genomics and histories.
5-Among Carribean Latinos, the term “negro”, as in, que tal negro? carries the precise sentiment and meaning as whassup nigga, or my nigger.
6-What makes it complicated is that in the U.S., the term “nigger” can have multiple connotations due to its history here.
7-For hundreds of years, it was casually used by plantation owning or managing whites and their black overseers and drivers, almost by convention, and in this origin, slaves used this term to refer to each other. That is why the term has multiple meanings depending on who makes the utterance and the circumstance.
a. From a white person, or person perceived as “white” nigger connotes “you inferior being”, plain and simple
b. From a black person it can mean, either “you are no better than me” and is meant to cut its target down to size in the eyes of the utterer, or it can mean “you are the same as me” or visa versa-Same refers to same history, same approximate gene pool, same struggle, same suffering; NB-this also applies to families of African ancestry who would appear caucasian, if they did not decide “to pass”. This leads to “c”.
c. There is a contemporaneous literary history of the phrase “my nigger” as a term of affection deriving from “b”(above)
page 19 of this reference http://www.temple.edu/tempress/chapters_1400/1453_ch1.pdf
Let me use the experience, observations, and perspectives of nearly six decades of living to inform the readers of some facts and advance some analysis, here.
1-First, So-called “African Americans” decent are really triracials to varying extents and have been so for centuries, with the European contributions to their genomes (20-25%)mostly from Great Britain, France, and other Western European nations, the African contributions(70-75%)from all over the African continent, but mostly Western Africa, and various Eastern Woodland and larger Native American tribes of the Southeast (5-10%).
2-So-called “Latinos”, at least those from the Carribean, are of very similar admixture, substituting the Spanish for the English and French, and Arawak and Tainos for the multiple tribes of the U.S.
3-Both mileu historically were built on plantation systems, cotton and tobacco in the American South, sugar cane in the carribean.
4-Please note to this point the convergence of genomics and histories.
5-Among Carribean Latinos, the term “negro”, as in, que tal negro? carries the precise sentiment and meaning as whassup nigga, or my nigger.
6-What makes it complicated is that in the U.S., the term “nigger” can have multiple connotations due to its history here.
7-For hundreds of years, it was casually used by plantation owning or managing whites and their black overseers and drivers, almost by convention, and in this origin, slaves used this term to refer to each other. That is why the term has multiple meanings depending on who makes the utterance and the circumstance.
a. From a white person, or person perceived as “white” nigger connotes “you inferior being”, plain and simple
b. From a black person it can mean, either “you are no better than me” and is meant to cut its target down to size in the eyes of the utterer, or it can mean “you are the same as me” or visa versa-Same refers to same history, same approximate gene pool, same struggle, same suffering; NB-this also applies to families of African ancestry who would appear caucasian, if they did not decide “to pass”. This leads to “c”.
c. There is a contemporaneous literary history of the phrase “my nigger” as a term of affection deriving from “b”(above)
page 19 of this reference http://www.temple.edu/tempress/chapters_1400/1453_ch1.pdf
Now, understand that the standard for so-called racial identification was and is the one-drop rule and those of my younger brethren who deny it will find it increasingly true as they experience life. This defined the difference between “White folk” and “Colored folk”, and included people who appeared frankly Caucasian as well as those who appeared to be completely African, who were often closely related by blood. One ancient reason for the importance of the black family reunion was so that those relatives of radically different appearance would be able to recognize each other, both to observe the bonds of kinship and also to avoid marriages to blood relatives.
“Colored” morphed into “Negro” without a change in the population group it referred to, and later Negro to “Black” (having nothing to do with skin color).
Thus, Latinos of Carribean Ancestry are actually of the same admixture and in days gone by, (prior to 1960), were classified as Colored.
Thus, Fat Joe, J Lo, whoever, are of African descent and had ancestors who suffered in the plantation system, then came to the cities of the North and faced discrimination, not just based on skin color but language as well.
In the sixties, their parents generation may have joined the Black Student Unions, the NAACP and other groups.
It was only during the Nixon administration that the term “Hispanic” was developed (a linguistic distinction) this was transformed by ignorant media sources as indicating a non-existent “racial difference”.
Thus, understand this, if Fat Joe were of my generation, he would have had the experience of being called “nigger” by some bigoted “whites”, just as I had. Neither he nor J Lo (then) could have “passed” (just yeller niggers. light-brights, etc).
Their ancestors paid the cost in the plantations of Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the DR and they are entitled as anyone whose ancestors were whipped on the plantations of Mississippi.
“My Nigger” = “Mi Negro”, same meaning.
As for “nigga”, I guess its a commercial generification, but that’s for your generation to decide.
While I do not use the
I SAY WE MUST LYNCH ALL THE NEGROS!THEN WHEN THEY BURNING WE SAY DIE NIGGA DIE NEGRO DIE NIGGAZ!
white people came up with the word “Nigger” now they dont want us to use it???? WTF